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While I am not a huge fan of regulation, I think the gasoline (and diesel) prices need "buffered"... there should NOT be $1 swings in prices in a months time, nor should prices get hiked up at every traveled holiday...



I don't mind paying high prices, but the suspense every day of whether I should have filled up yesterday in order to save $2 is a bunch of BS... we should have confidence to know the prices aren't going to react everytime an oil tanker captain farts crosswise...



steved
 
This is good to know sine I'll be traveling through there Sunday... prices here are hovering near $2. 90... it varies from $2. 83 to $2. 99 for diesel.





steved







Let me know if you need any recommends for anything like diesel, restaurants , lodging.
 
Let me know if you need any recommends for anything like diesel, restaurants , lodging.





I'll probably stop in Moriarty, there's a little Shell there that has awesome fuel...



And I wish I was staying in ABQ... I got a week or so's worth of work at Gallup... :{ Talk about nothing on top of nothing... but it still beats office time...



steved
 
A whole week in Gallup? Not much going on there. The two places I stop to eat while going through Gallup are El Rancho Hotel and the Cracker Barrel. I like to eat at Blackies in Moriarty, if it's still there.
 
Out of the past 6 years, I've probably spent almost 9 months in Gallup!



There are a couple little places off Old 66... Chelle's is a pretty good place. El Sombrero is another... Earl's isn't bad...



At least Gallup is fairly central to a lot of "sights" in the four corners region.



Figure probably 150 gallons of fuel to get there... $500 in fuel and I get $0. 485 per mile... $$



steved
 
I keep hearing this no new refineries in the last 30 years, but I swear I saw some where that Valero has built 3 or 4 and plans to build more in 07-08'. It also stated that Valero was now the largest refiner in the U. S.
 
I couldn't believe my eyes today. :eek:



For the first time in nealy 2 years gas is more than diesel. In Bismarck ND regular unleaded 2. 99 diesel 2. 84. Oo. Thats the order it is supposed to be. Now if we can just back it back down about 1. 50 a gallon. :{
 
Here in Seattle diesels been lower than reg gas for a few months. (diesel $2. 99 and gas now $3. 33). But Im sure that will flip again here shortly.

We have to make sure all of the nasty people that drive diesels get screwed, right ?
 
$2.63 per gal.

I paid $2. 63 per gallon at the diesel pump at Walmart in Kingsland, Ga. ,

last friday april 28, Murphy Oil Co.



Oil stocks aren't paying me anything and haven't been since I owned them,

which has been several years. I'd have been better off to have kept my RR stock, would certainly have made more money on UP and CSX. I own sevral

oil stocks, Exon Mobil, Chevron, and a couple others, nothing really outstanding. Oil companies plow most that money back into finding new oil

sources, they don't pay it to the stock holders. For the last couple of years

I've made more money with J. C. Penny, and I don't know why I keep

holding on to Walmart, puny dividend and no growth, owned it for several years,in the hole with it presently. If you'd quit listening to these left wing liberals in congress who keep up the rhetoric (sp) about Walmart and the oil

companies you'd be better informed, also our Senate is in the process

of taxing those "big Profits" and we will face no diesel fuel at any price if they succeed. .
 
also our Senate is in the process

of taxing those "big Profits" and we will face no diesel fuel at any price if they succeed. .



Never happen!! The entire US infrastructure runs on diesel, that would shut the entire U. S. shipping industry down, not to mention the military and farmers! I think you are either misreading something or you are listening to a blowhard.
 
Fuel availability

BT,

You may not be old enough to remember when the Carter

administration placed a price cap on gasoline. The result was that

in many locations in the eastern U. S. many service stations could not get

gasoline. There may have other parts of the country experienced this,

but also at that time we did not have China and India competing for the diesel fuel as we do now, nor was there a Chavez in Venzuella who has

nationalized the oil in that country, Conoco was the last hold out and they should have signed by now. If the big oil's profits are taxed as proposed,

the billions that big oil invests in new oil exploration, technology to enhance

older, almost depleted wells, will go to the government and then the available fuel will go to commercial trucks, farming operations, RR's, buses and transit systems and military at a very high price. I know what it's like not to be able to buy fuel, however at the same time people were earning better than 15 percent interest on a CD, don't you just love the way liberals do things?



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I am old enough, unfortunately. China is not competing with the U. S. for diesel, they are competing for crude oil. We are not shipping our domestic production of diesel to other countries. Your logic for why diesel will dissappear is totally flawed. If diesel is going to be drastically limited then gasoline will be in short supply also. As far as the shortages on the east coast, you had better do a little digging, there was more at work there. Here in Texas I can honestly say I never saw a shortage of gas at any time, no "tanks empty" or "out of fuel" signs. We had fuel to spare, so why is it other areas had these drastic shortages? It all boils down to big oil. And if the government can't control them we will all be looking at $5. 00 a gallon prices in the near future. And the liberals are NOT to blame here, the republicans are the ones that have allowed the oil companies to step all over the American people with no regard to our financial situations. Many of the republicans are either in the back pockets of big oil or shareholders, so they do what is good for their wallet, not what is good for the American people.



There is a historical formula for the price ratio of a gallon of gas to a gallon of crude. If you use that formula now the price per barrel for crude would be near $100. 00! This was brought up in Washington, the government was outraged! Promises were made that the FTC would launch a full scale investigation into the oil companies! Guess what? It quietly dissappeared, go figure.



To sum it up, big oil is to stupid to realize they are about to get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, but not stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot. The fuel will remain available, the prices may continue to go up, but they will not deliberately short the public. This country is already on the brink of a revolution, they won't push it to that point.
 
This country is already on the brink of a revolution, they won't push it to that point.



I don't think so. This is a very rich country and people will pay. Three years ago, there would have been riots in the streets at the mere mention of $3/gallon gas. Now people continue buying at the same rates as when gas was $1. 50. I suspect it will take at least $4 or $5/ga for anything to happen. Unfortunately :mad:
 
Carter's plan was to allocate fuel by past usage,
So resort areas got increase in summer fuel as usual,
BUT: people stayed home, used more than expected in the cities,

Resort and rural areas had "Lots" of fuel, cities dryed up.

BUT, gov't was not going to accept being wrong ( he was a socialist president)
so, Gas shortage...

There is only 1 thing that will lower fuel prices , Not a good thing though,
That is a world recession ,
 
I don't think so. This is a very rich country and people will pay. Three years ago, there would have been riots in the streets at the mere mention of $3/gallon gas. Now people continue buying at the same rates as when gas was $1. 50. I suspect it will take at least $4 or $5/ga for anything to happen. Unfortunately :mad:



You are probably right on that, I was reffering to the oil companies cutting back on supply to the public because their profits are hurting. That would cause a very swift reaction. I would hope more people would be willing to act now, but the sheep haven't been pushed close enough to the cliff yet to get worried.
 
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