Lift Pump

[04 Diesel Power]

I have an 2004 model Ram CTD, lift pump on the fuel filter. Has any one rebuilt the lift pump? Is this possible? Is there a kit to do this? Just wondering, I have 83,000 miles on mine, waiting for it to quit.

 

[Pawpaw]

I have just over 90K on mine and I'm thinking of the same things.



There is no kit to rebuild the stock lift pump. Our options are to:



1. Buy a replacement lift pump from Cummins.



2. Hope it fails so your dealer will install the in-tank kit for free. (Not on MY truck!!!)



3. Install an aftermarket pump.



I'm planning on installing the Glacier Diesel kit with a 2-micron fuel filter and the Walbro pump.



Bob

 

[04 Diesel Power]

I just dont have the money for that.

 

[Pawpaw]

Neither do I. That's why its still running on the original lift pump & filter set-up.



Bob

 

[MickeyMiller]

3RD option: Lift Pump By-Pass. I'm in the same boat, 2003 Truck, 90K miles, original lift pump. I don't want the in tank pump. I bought a fuel inlet fitting off e-bay that replaces the stock lift pump. The Cummins is supose to run fine without a lift pump, so I carry the by-pass filliing, a 17mm wrench, and a 5mmm allen and figure I can remove the lift pump if it fails. Then I'll have no choice but to buy the Glacier kit! [Does seem smarter if I would just bit the bullet and buy the Glacier kit now, but I've always been a slow learner... . ]

 

[Pawpaw]

I can only see one small flaw in your plan.



If the lift pump dies and you install your bypass, how are you going to prime the system?



According to others on this board, when the lift pump dies, it doesn't just quit pumping. It blocks fuel flow. It seems to me that the CP3 is sure to suck all (or most) of the fuel out of the system.



Just wondering.



Bob

 

[MChessick]

Now I am panicked, I have been wondering what to do also. I have 152k on everything original. Yikes!!



Mark

 

[Bean]

I have a brand new in-tank retro kit that I would let go pretty cheap if someone wants it. I got it for a guy then he got it changed some where else and then the box got wet so I am stuck with it. MAke me an offer if you want it.

 

[silverram03]

I have just over 90K on mine and I'm thinking of the same things.



There is no kit to rebuild the stock lift pump. Our options are to:



1. Buy a replacement lift pump from Cummins.



2. Hope it fails so your dealer will install the in-tank kit for free. (Not on MY truck!!!)



3. Install an aftermarket pump.



I'm planning on installing the Glacier Diesel kit with a 2-micron fuel filter and the Walbro pump.



Bob

I just had mine replaced under warranty with the in-tank kit and as for the second option of a replacement from Cummins, they don't even make the part anymore. See latest TDR issue in "The way we were" page 74.

Greg

 

[ASchwartz]

Call me lucky,



My lift pump quit on the way home from work one day. Called for a two and had the tow truck park my rig in my drive way so that the tank was above the engine. I too had the bypass kit, installed it and with a little help from gravity the tank primed the system. I drove over 400 miles with no lift pump until I got the walbro from GDP. Very happy with Richard's kit.



Avi

 

[rbattelle]

I just dont have the money for that.

There are other options besides Glacier and FASS that can be had much cheaper without (in my opinion) any sacrifice in quality. Holley makes some fine fuel pumps that are quite inexpensive ($110), as does Carter (although Carter certainly has a bad reputation around here).



In my opinion, it's possible to replace your lift pump with an aftermarket arrangement for under $300 with a little ingenuity. I believe most of the stock lines can be reused with creative application of various barbed fittings. The most expensive parts, then, would be the pump itself and the adaptor to convert the stock canister to a simple fitting.



Just because everyone else in the world is using Glacier (or FASS), doesn't mean they're the "ultimate solution", or even the "only solution". Personally, I think the GDP kit derives its value from convenience, rather than componentry.



Ryan

 

[AMassaro]

You can also buy the Walbro pump for around $110 on ebay and fab up a system to work for around $200 total. If you're creative with plumbing, electrical and mechanical aspects then it's pretty easy. No need to spend more than that...

 

[04 Diesel Power]

Thanks guys.