Nieghbor not happy with new 6.3 mpg Powerstroke

[Giachino]

He must have a good one... . go read the dieselstop..... that seems higher than most are getting...

 

[y-knot]

Right on Fatcat..... what does people think???3. 73 gears and towing a large trailer... hello

 

[AKaiser]

What's the torque on a 3406E, about 1200 or so? Our trucks are designed to pull less than 1/4 the weight and have not 1/4 the displacement, torque and HP, but closer to 1/2. If our rigs were set up like a road tractor, we would have less HP and torque than what they started out with in the 80s. They would probably get twenty plus MPGs empty EASILY at interstate speeds, if they were properly designed for aerodynamics. They would be a bit doggy, which is the primary reason why we're where we're at today. Pickup truck drivers EXPECT to be able to merge into interstate traffic like a Viper. My CTD is better at it than my 99 with a 318. Put an auto trans behind it, and it would give some sportscars a go bone stock.



BTW, my last fuel stop, 22 MPGs. Average speed on 357 miles was (guestimate) 50 MPH. Fueled with B2.

 

[TAbbott]

3406E's started out with 1450 ft pounds when they were first released. Finally got up to 2050 ft pounds in their highest powered 625 hp configuration. The newer C-15's (same 893 cubic inch block) typically run about 1650 torque. The highest rating now is 1850 I think, maybe 2050 but the emissions equipment has really taken a toll on them. Get maybe 2/3 the mileage they used to get while making half again the boost or more with their twin turbo setup. Performance is down, fuel economy is down, fuel consumption is up, reliability is down, expense is up, weight is up --- Hey, it sounds like AlGore!! But, the exhaust is now cleaner than the intake air

 

[hummincummins2]

powerstroke sucks!!!! he should drop a cummins in if he really likes the ford body, cab, and bed.

 

[Grizzly]

I know a member that just went to the dark side (bought 6. 4, ford 4x4, 1 ton ,drw, crew cab, 8ft bed). Said pulling his boat he's getting 11 mpg, running empty 16-17 mpg.

The best way to increase your fuel mileage is to lie about it.

 

[E7mack96]

Our 3406E is rated @ 600 hp and 2250 Tq. its a 1999-2001 16 litre CAT. We pull heavy, in the neighborhood of 150,000 lbs and still turn in mid 4 mpgs. Our cummins is closer to 1/3 the displacement on those big motors, and only putting out about 1/3 to 1/4 of the Tq.



Just think, if we could pull 1/10 the weight (15K) and get 10 x fuel economy (40+). it is a nice dream



Anyways, I am completely impressed with the big gun in my 2000 Pete.

 

[AKaiser]

The best way to increase your fuel mileage is to lie about it.

Try lying to your pocketbook. That's the catch.

 

[Grizzly]

Try lying to your pocketbook. That's the catch.

It makes ford people feel better when they lie to Dodge/Cummins owners. My brother-in-law has alway done that about all the fords he's had. Speaking of brother-in-law, he just bought a ferd 6. 4 powerjoke. I couldn't convince him on a Dodge/Cummins. His ferd dealer told him that the new 6. 4 was the best engine on the planet and that he should get 18 mpg pulling his 30' ForestRiver 5er.

 

[AKaiser]

It makes ford people feel better when they lie to Dodge/Cummins owners. My brother-in-law has alway done that about all the fords he's had. Speaking of brother-in-law, he just bought a ferd 6. 4 powerjoke. I couldn't convince him on a Dodge/Cummins. His ferd dealer told him that the new 6. 4 was the best engine on the planet and that he should get 18 mpg pulling his 30' ForestRiver 5er.

So, who drank more of the bong water? The dealer, or your BIL for buying the line and the 'Joke?

 

[Grizzly]

So, who drank more of the bong water? The dealer, or your BIL for buying the line and the 'Joke?

Maybe both. I have to question my B-I-L's judgment. These die hard ferd folks will believe what they want to hear.

 

[DWeiler]

I figure they would get better as technology improved---my 2001 7. 3 gets no better than 10-12 how hard i drive it 70%city/30%highway,loaded most of the time to the nuts with stacks of bread(ave 850miles/week). We must of got a good one in Fords eyes cause i just hit 205000 miles on it last week---original injectors/turbo/no major internal yet,but is getting tired----to bad it only took 11 of these same trucks to make it this far. New trucks are being talked about and it looks like the bean counters at work will buy the Ford again(god help me). There is a reason why i have a CUMMINS in my garage for hauling,even though i"v logged about 500000 miles on Ford 7. 3's,hope the 6. 4 are better---my 2 cents.

 

[Grizzly]

I figure they would get better as technology improved---my 2001 7. 3 gets no better than 10-12 how hard i drive it 70%city/30%highway,loaded most of the time to the nuts with stacks of bread(ave 850miles/week). We must of got a good one in Fords eyes cause i just hit 205000 miles on it last week---original injectors/turbo/no major internal yet,but is getting tired----to bad it only took 11 of these same trucks to make it this far. New trucks are being talked about and it looks like the bean counters at work will buy the Ford again(god help me). There is a reason why i have a CUMMINS in my garage for hauling,even though i"v logged about 500000 miles on Ford 7. 3's,hope the 6. 4 are better---my 2 cents.

Don't hold your breath on the 6. 4 getting better!