Kore/Fox Shox Steering Stabilizer

[hearingyourlies]

Well, after spending MONTHS trying to get this thing charged, I finally did it. Ended up with it tracking perfect at about 140 psi. Of course, I snapped one of the bolts, right INSIDE the aluminum mount. Of course. With my luck I stripped the damn thing out and will have to buy a full replacement unit. But, Chris Kelly from KLM is sending me 6 replacement bolts to see if I can make it work and maybe re-tap the thread.



But, back to what my original intent was.



THIS THING ROCKS!!!



I never had it charged on the truck, ever, so steering was a PITA. Now, I understand what people mean when they say it's worth the money for this product. The difference is OUTSTANDING.



Anyone with wheel hop/steering bounce/etc ... NEEDS to check this thing out.

 

[Regcabguy]

Carli/Defiant dual steering stabilizer

For a dab more buckeroos ,I holding out for Defiant's dual unit when my 285's wear out and I go to 35's. They're self-cancelling,mount above the axle and include a truss guard.

 

[firemansdiesel]

For a dab more buckeroos ,I holding out for Defiant's dual unit when my 285's wear out and I go to 35's. They're self-cancelling,mount above the axle and include a truss guard.

x2, but I will be ordering the new single steering stabilizer from Defiant/Carli.

 

[Yo Hoot]

Check mine out

Carli Suspensions Dual Stabilizer Kit Install

 

[Regcabguy]

x2, but I will be ordering the new single steering stabilizer from Defiant/Carli.

The single's a good way to go. However,I'd like to have the diff. guard also. Single+axle guard is not too far from the double setup money wise. For now the stock setup works fine.

 

[DWeiler]

The single's a good way to go. However,I'd like to have the diff. guard also. Single+axle guard is not too far from the double setup money wise. For now the stock setup works fine.

I'm looking for a good "single" after market one to go with my Kore Recon(SECOND GENNER),not interested in the dual set up because of the front Mag-Hytec(YES,YES i know its mostly cosmetic,but it was a b-day gift from the Mrs and she would bust a gasket:-{}:-{}:-{} if she found out that i removed it and add it to my been there/ done that pile so early). Any info/suggestions is welcome---Thanks. DW

 

[firemansdiesel]

The single's a good way to go. However,I'd like to have the diff. guard also. Single+axle guard is not too far from the double setup money wise. For now the stock setup works fine.

When I talked to Paul (Carli Susp. ) last week to get info on the single. He said they have a new dual stabilizer in the works and if I decide to jump up to duals. That the single I will buy can be used w/ the extra setup. I only do 20% offroad driving so I think the single will be sufficient for me. The duals do look nice.

 

[CDonaldson]

I considered the duals and the diff guard, but have the front MagHytec, so I will stay with my KORE/Fox setup. It does a great job, no complaints, much better than stock. If down line they come up with a diff guard that will fit with the MagHytec cover, then I will consider installing the duals. They do look nice, but not returning to stock cover to have them, the MagHytec fluid addition was a more important factor to me, albeit a small gain, the temp sensor tells me it was a good gain.



CD

 

[Desert Proven]

Dweiler, The new KORE Chase series steering damper should fit on your truck. We have a 2nd gen ourselves and are going to be putting it on. I'll keep you posted on the results. We also have a couple of customers putting them on as well.



Keep in mind there is a significant difference between the single steering damper that KORE has and the other single dampers on the market (including the ones mentioned in this post). KORE uses an internal floating piston while the others appear to be, or are, emulsion type designs. Emulsion shocks work best in the vertical position, not horizontal. When in the horizontal position, the air (or nitrogen) is flowing through the piston and doesn't provide damping. Conversely, the Internal Floating piston (IFP) separates the air (nitrogen) from the fluid to force the fluid throught the piston to provide effective damping even in a horizontal position. So, while some of these new designs may look nice, there will be a difference in performance(especially with bigger tires).



I hope this helps answer some questions.

 

[firemansdiesel]

Dweiler, The new KORE Chase series steering damper should fit on your truck. We have a 2nd gen ourselves and are going to be putting it on. I'll keep you posted on the results. We also have a couple of customers putting them on as well.



Keep in mind there is a significant difference between the single steering damper that KORE has and the other single dampers on the market (including the ones mentioned in this post). KORE uses an internal floating piston while the others appear to be, or are, emulsion type designs. Emulsion shocks work best in the vertical position, not horizontal. When in the horizontal position, the air (or nitrogen) is flowing through the piston and doesn't provide damping. Conversely, the Internal Floating piston (IFP) separates the air (nitrogen) from the fluid to force the fluid throught the piston to provide effective damping even in a horizontal position. So, while some of these new designs may look nice, there will be a difference in performance(especially with bigger tires).

I hope this helps answer some questions.

My understanding of the Emulsion Shock vs. IFP Shock when talking to Carli Susp. & Radflo. Someone who uses thier truck for dailey driving and light to moderate offroad use that there is no difference in performance. If your going to run hundreds of miles offroad racing. Then the Emulsion shock will tend to foam up w/ the mixture of gas and oil mixing. Even then there are some racing teams and rock crawlers out there that use a Emulsion Shock w/o trouble. I believe Donahoe Racing was one of them I was told.

 

[Desert Proven]

I suppose if you drove your truck completely straight, on a completely flat road, and never moved the wheel, there might not be much difference. However, even in daily driving, the wheels are turning and the pistons are compressing. This is causing the oil and air to mix. It is also causing air to be pushed through the piston and will not allow for consistent damping.



There will always be people who use this design whether it be on road or off. They may not encounter "problems", it simply will not work as well as an IFP.



It's just like the fact that there will always be people running triple or quadruple Rancho shocks per wheel. It doesn't mean it will work as well as a single race shock with remote reservoir.



For what it is worth, Donahoe also uses and IFP design on their race truck, which is also the same set up that is sold to the general public.

 

[DWeiler]

Dweiler, The new KORE Chase series steering damper should fit on your truck. We have a 2nd gen ourselves and are going to be putting it on. I'll keep you posted on the results. We also have a couple of customers putting them on as well.



Keep in mind there is a significant difference between the single steering damper that KORE has and the other single dampers on the market (including the ones mentioned in this post). KORE uses an internal floating piston while the others appear to be, or are, emulsion type designs. Emulsion shocks work best in the vertical position, not horizontal. When in the horizontal position, the air (or nitrogen) is flowing through the piston and doesn't provide damping. Conversely, the Internal Floating piston (IFP) separates the air (nitrogen) from the fluid to force the fluid throught the piston to provide effective damping even in a horizontal position. So, while some of these new designs may look nice, there will be a difference in performance(especially with bigger tires).



I hope this helps answer some questions.

Thanks for the info,and let me know how things work out---i was told by Kore reps that there is nothing for my second genner but rancho etc. If it does help out i may need to purchase one to complete my KORE set-up. Thanks again for the info and keeping me posted----DW

 

[231jasonS]

Desert proven, How come you dont have any pricing on your web site? I wanted to see about a trac bar and steering damper. Do i have to wait until monday during buiness hours to get this info. You have a decent web site otherwise.

 

[firemansdiesel]

Desert proven, How come you dont have any pricing on your web site? I wanted to see about a trac bar and steering damper. Do i have to wait until monday during buiness hours to get this info. You have a decent web site otherwise.

Jason, I can help you out w/ the trac bar price. I bought mine from Sean Lorenz $367 shipped and zinc plated ready for install.

 

[231jasonS]

I saw Lorenz' sight with the pricing and Carli's has it as well. It just seems all the KORE stuff is never advertized. I wonder why? I just would like to get all the infor i can before buying one.



But thank you very much for the info.

 

[Desert Proven]

231jasonS,



I just sent you a PM.

 

[desertsuspension]

check out the classified section under the suspension items

 

[MoparBob]

I am curious as to what pressures everyone is running in their Fox Race Steering Stabilizer? If I run into the problem of the stabilizer setup pushing left a bit, I want to know what pressures are safe to run without losing performance. Also, can you install the stabilizer already charged with nitrogen... or is it safe enough to charge them with air long enough to drive it to the shop to get the nitrogen fill? I have the stabilizer waiting at the house for me to install it and want to be prepared.

 

[firemansdiesel]

I am running my Fox S/S @ 125 psi. Runs straight for the most part (roads in my area suck). If you pull to the left too much then let some nitrogen out. I would not go below 100 psi for dampening purposes.



You can install the S/S charged or not. It makes it a little easier to have little nitogen in it to move the piston/clamp into location. Then go get it charged. A lot of tire shops are using nitogen for tires now (atleast an option).

 

[MoparBob]

Thanks firemansdodge for the reponse.