Hose damper and rubber piece. To dampen the by-pass filter's virbrations.

[JasonCzerak]

I'm looking for something like the chunk of metal on the power steering hose (on my 3rd gen). This is suppose to dampen the vibration from the power steering pump. I'm looking for something similar, but smaller for my by-pass filter lines (amsoil kit). The oil pump is transmitting the noise into the cab (on firewall mount for the bypass)



Also, where would I source some flat rubber? I'd like to try to put some between the filter housing and firewall to see how much that would help.

 

[BILLVO]

I had the same problem. I tried several different things including the rubber between the firewall and filterhead but the vibration transfered through the bolts,the only thing I found that work are called isolators. a rubber puck with either bolts sticking out of them or threads in them.



Here is where I got mine from. There are many sizes and styles for how you may want to mount it.



Grainger Industrial Supply

 

[JasonCzerak]

I had the same problem. I tried several different things including the rubber between the firewall and filterhead but the vibration transfered through the bolts,the only thing I found that work are called isolators. a rubber puck with either bolts sticking out of them or threads in them.



Here is where I got mine from. There are many sizes and styles for how you may want to mount it.



Grainger Industrial Supply

So don't bother with the dampener on the supply oil line?



What exact part did you use from grainger? If you have it on the firewall, I"m sure I can copy what you did

 

[BILLVO]

Correct it is not the supply line that causes it. it is the internal valve in the amsoil filter head that causes the vibration.



It has been a while but I think I used the part # 5xk64 which is a metric one that had the thickness that I needed for a tight clearance issue I had to fit it with my last intake system. You could use a taller one,the 6mm or 1/4 inch ones with the bolt stems out each end work well. Just look at the size and see what will suit your needs.



Since I installed my Ranch hand front bumper I relocated the remote filters to the huge open area under the bumper to clean up the engine bay and make access to them easier also.

 

[JasonCzerak]

Max. Load Sideways Shear (Lb. ) 6



So a shear of 6lb x 3 is enough? I was thinking that the filter with oil was closer to 10lb and would need at least 30lb to resist the jarring of every day driving.



Then again, a lower shear would mean more dampening ability with a lighter weight part.

 

[BILLVO]

Max. Load Sideways Shear (Lb. ) 6



So a shear of 6lb x 3 is enough? I was thinking that the filter with oil was closer to 10lb and would need at least 30lb to resist the jarring of every day driving.



Then again, a lower shear would mean more dampening ability with a lighter weight part.

That is more than enough side load. I had 3 of them and ran it for a little over a year and it gets plenty of off road and everyday abuse with the washboard gravel roads everyday. There should be little to no vibration at that spot of the chassis. Mine didn't appear to have distorted after a little more than year. Mine also held the weight of a home made braket between the filterhead and fender because of the clearance I had them laying at a 45 degree angle putting even more weight and stress on them.



As I said you could go with a bigger one I used that particular one because I needed to stay thin for clearance issues but it was still more than strong enough. I like the thinner ones with a verticle mount to help eliminate the chance of a taller one gettin floppy or wiggley for lack of a better term.

 

[JasonCzerak]

That is more than enough side load. I had 3 of them and ran it for a little over a year and it gets plenty of off road and everyday abuse with the washboard gravel roads everyday. There should be little to no vibration at that spot of the chassis. Mine didn't appear to have distorted after a little more than year. Mine also held the weight of a home made braket between the filterhead and fender because of the clearance I had them laying at a 45 degree angle putting even more weight and stress on them.

As I said you could go with a bigger one I used that particular one because I needed to stay thin for clearance issues but it was still more than strong enough. I like the thinner ones with a verticle mount to help eliminate the chance of a taller one gettin floppy or wiggley for lack of a better term.

Agree with the thinner one! Also, it would look less "funky" as well. Local grainger has a bunch in stock and I'll pick them up on the way home. I'll report my success this evening.

Thanks a huge lot there BILLVO

 

[BILLVO]

No problem.



I wish we had a Grainger,MSC or other big name wholesale industrial supply co closer than Fargo. Everything is always an internet search and wait for mail.

 

[JasonCzerak]

No problem.



I wish we had a Grainger,MSC or other big name wholesale industrial supply co closer than Fargo. Everything is always an internet search and wait for mail.

There are like 8 or 10 in MN. including one 10 minute (with traffic) from my office. ;-)



The key is to move to civilization, we have running water here now. :-laf

 

[BILLVO]

We are civilized here in western ND. We have had running water forever. We have hills so it runs down hill and stays fresh. not like the mosquito puddles you have out east. :-laf



We still measure distance in miles and not minutes too.



Reminds me of a good joke I heard the other day.



Lifetime friends Ole,Swen and Lars were arguing over which culture was the most advanced. Lars said he hit a phone cable 4 feet down while digging in his back yard so they had been civilized for a few hundred years so Swen said he didn't hit a cable until he got 10 feet down so he said they were civilized for thousands of years so Ole digs down 50 meters and finds no cable at all and said they were the most advanced of them all because they have alwys been wireless. :-laf

 

[steved]

Correct it is not the supply line that causes it. it is the internal valve in the amsoil filter head that causes the vibration.

While this might be true for a dual-remote filter head, the BMK-11 only utilizes a restriction orifice... no moving parts.



steved

 

[icman95]

Per Amsoil: the noise is the vibration of the oil pump being transmitted, not a valve in the filter mount. I'm not sure I'd put a weight on the line anyway. Imagine all that extra weight bouncing up and down all day on the line. Wasn't meant to support that. Could damage the line in the long term.

 

[JasonCzerak]

I got the same answer form amsoil about the oil pump making the noise.



The rubber mounts work PERFECTLY! no noise in the cab!!!!!



However, I would like to see a stronger, less flexable version (see link from BILLVO). I ended up with the 68 something version (next size stronger from what billvo used). I'll look this up later. I want to replace them with something 2 or 3 times "Stronger". The by pass filter can giggle a few inches in each direction and can come in contact with the A/C lines in my case. Not to mention any extra flex the heat will allow.



I used lock washers since putting alot of torque on the bolts would be a bad idea for the rubber (vs lock nuts). Used bigger washers around both sides of the firewall. Works well. I'm happy with things.

 

[BILLVO]

Steve and Iceman.



I stand corrected. I was thinking of something else and confusing them.



Jason you can torque them to normal torque. If you look at how the isolator is made the bolt has a flat on the end that is vulcanized to the rubber. You are pulling on the flat metal part of the bolt not the rubber.



You must have gotten taller ones than what I have. Mine had virtually no movement at all mounted with 3 of them. I got the thinnest ones they had in 6mm.

 

[JasonCzerak]

Steve and Iceman.



I stand corrected. I was thinking of something else and confusing them.



Jason you can torque them to normal torque. If you look at how the isolator is made the bolt has a flat on the end that is vulcanized to the rubber. You are pulling on the flat metal part of the bolt not the rubber.



You must have gotten taller ones than what I have. Mine had virtually no movement at all mounted with 3 of them. I got the thinnest ones they had in 6mm.

hmmm ok, they didn't have your exact part number in stock and the guy went up next on the list for size. I'll get something orderer today.

 

[JasonCzerak]

ok, I've got the 5xk64's coming in by noon here (w00t!). I scanned the site quickly and didn't see anything smaller. Heh, 2 orders from Grainger with out a "company name" heh.

 

[nickleinonen]

mcmaster carr has good stuff like this too. and their mail order is pretty good