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I have a dead 2002 HO and I'm almost positive the VP is shot. I just installed a FASS 95 g. p. h. (pump only) and had no problems for 1 week. Then the juice with attitude came. Then two days later dead truck. The part the worries me is that I lost pressure, at the filter canister, 3 times when I would come out of highway speeds down to an idle. The truck would idle fine right after the first two drops... then nothing. The truck also had no problems getting fuel at wot (dropping to 9psi) I did shut down once the pressure dropped to about 3 psi. Is this just a symptom of a failing VP after higher demands of fuel from the edge or is something else wrong???:confused:
 
Under load the pressure is great (9psi at wide open at the lowest)... I had the problem when I would let off to come to a stop.



There are no signs of an in tank pump... wiring or stickers that a dealer would put on.
 
All in all great fuel pressure... except when slowing down ONLY. The truck idles and takes full advantage of the edge and the fass has NO problems keeping up with fuel demand. What I want to know is why I loose pressure when I slow down to come to a stop. I had about 10 gal. left in the tank. I assume that the fuel tank is baffled and at that point I should not have been sucking air. If so can the fass sense that it's just sucking air, if so does it shut off when it sucks air?

By the way 2 wires only... no intank pump assumed.
 
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Diesel-Dan I don't know exactly where you are going with this. My original post was not an attack on your product or the edge product, and I don't know if you are just trying to defend the FASS or trying to help me out. I know that my daily driver is down and I would like to get it up and running!!



10 gal is a rough estimate it might be closer to 15 gal. My gauge is on 1/2 tank and so my fuel light is far from coming on (100-150 miles I would guess at a min. ) I have no problems under hard acceleration.



I could not tell you if the pump was loosing prime or not. I do know the tank is long and narrow and I could see that sloshing fuel could cause a problem. I never had a problem at a similar fuel level with the stock LP and if I did the stocker primed before I could notice a problem.



If I call the number on the FASS installation instructions would I be able to get in touch with you so I can clear up what is going on? All I want to do is get my truck back on the road and keep it reliable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
IF an '05 or '06 tank (which one?) has baffles in it, will that tank fit earlier (ie '02) models? Anybody have any idea?



Do any of the tanks have a sump in it?



Bob Weis
 
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MORED- I dont think Dan is downing anyone or thing just trying to eliminate the possibilities to find the answer to your problem. Have you tried loosening the lines to regain prime or bleed air? If you have codes an 02 can be read with key cycles. This type problem IS frustating but we are all here to help as best we can! Good info is key, so questions are a good thing. ;)

edit- Dan, you type too fast! LOL!
 
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I wasn’t going anywhere with this... i was merely giving you some suggestions to check out to see if you had an area of issue. You wouldn’t believe the amt of issues of no fuel pressure that are solved by simply putting fuel in the tank... . because they ran the truck out of fuel. :-laf



I had the pleasure to work with a wonderful mechanic back in Coppell, TX that asked me what type of mechanic I wanted to be. He said that there are 2 types……”Part Replaces” and “Diagnosticians”. I elected to go for the latter…. and in my posts I try to pose questions to maybe help find a solution. They may come across as defensive at times…but believe me, they are not.



Not every issue is and open and shut case……and these I am finding are some of the hardest to pinpoint.



BUT im digressing…. . back to your issue. Does this issue happen with a full tank of fuel?





First of all thank you for your help trying to figure this out. I realize that you don't know me from Adam and I might just be missing the obvious.



As far as holding a prime at idle and wide open there was no problem except that I cannot test that now due to the truck not running. I do know that the FASS will kick on and has no problem building pressure at the filter canister.



As far as the amount of fuel in the tank. I filled up before installing the FASS on 1-26-08. 1-30-08 I installed the Edge with Attitude, with no problems after test drive (about 120-150 miles into the tank at 15 mpg and 17 mpg after edge, which I assumed is due to cold weather, but cold have been a sign of a failing VP from what I have heard. )



2-1-08 troubles begin. I might include some things in here that don't mean anything. I set the turbo cool down mode to 1 min to see how it worked. Went for a little bragging ride to show off my new power and when shutting the truck down hit the brake to stop the cool down cycle prematurely (after cool EGT's) for some reason the truck shut down strange.



After that I experienced hard starts, when edge was on 5 and 0, maybe I should have been more concerned about this. On my way home I got off the highway and at the end of the ramp I put the truck in neutral and that's when the pressure started dropping. Shut the truck off at 4 psi. I then primed the system with the FASS with no problems (15-17psi after turning the key switch to kick the FASS on. ) This happened two more times, never coming to a complete stop, but during a slow down (only one of which was a quicker stop. )



On the third pressure drop the truck died and that was all she wrote.



As far as trouble shooting that I have done.

-3 injector lines cracked-only one flowing fuel

-unhooked the edge except for the VP wire penetration

-fuel flows into filter canister at a high rate.

-fuel filter replaced same day as FASS install.

-no water in fuel

-fuel is not jelled

-as far as I can estimate I have about 10-15 gal of fuel which is the lowest it has been since the edge and FASS installs.



My guesses were.

-did the FASS loose prime, with the amount of fuel I see how this is possible, but I didn't figure it was probable because I hadn't had the same problem with the stock LP?

-Was the VP just tired and ready to go and is my only issue, if so how does this explain my pressure drop?

-Can the pressure drop be explained by the VP locking in a position at idle (problem with pressure only happened when I shifted to neutral slowing to stop) where pressure can not build in the filter canaster because fuel is being pushed right back to the tank?



Sorry for this long winded message but maybe it will help understand what happened.



Thanks agian for all the help!!
 
My VP bit the dust at the end of a hard dyno run. no codes. the fuel press was always steady at 17psi, after the truck died, cracked lines to find fuel was flowing THROUGH the VP (blown bypass valve). got only a trickle out of 1-2 injectors. siezed rotor. found out later it was common for these pumps if shut down too quick, especially if wire is tapped. my $. 02.
 
My VP bit the dust at the end of a hard dyno run. no codes. the fuel press was always steady at 17psi, after the truck died, cracked lines to find fuel was flowing THROUGH the VP (blown bypass valve). got only a trickle out of 1-2 injectors. siezed rotor. found out later it was common for these pumps if shut down too quick, especially if wire is tapped. my $. 02.



Seems similar, did you notice a pressure drop before the VP died? Am I trying to make this more complicated than it is?



Also do you have the tapped wire on your new VP if so how long has it lasted so far, and is the VP still under warranty?
 
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open inlet line at the VP turn key toon" bump" starter if you've got lots of fuel there( use a catch can, this can be VERY messy!),If good there and no/little fuel pressure at the injectors OR only at 1-2 injectors you need a VP. If little or no fuel at the inlet then there is a problem in lift system. Blue Chip diesel has a great write-up on this.
 
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