Transmission slip in all gears

[posey-smoker]

I was driving to town about 3 miles from my house. I came to a stop and when trying to take off it just reved up and went no where. I checked all gears including R and same result.



I then shut off the truck and let it sit for about 2 minutes. I then started it up and it took off normally. After about 200 yards it slipped out and just reved up. I coasted to a stop and again all gears and R just reved up and no motion.



I finally limped home by stopping and shutting down 4 to 5 more times to get it going.



I dropped the pan at home and found blackish purple fluid whth a metalic sheet swirling around in it. I went ahead and changed the filter and cleaned off 3/4 of an inch of sludge/metalic crap off the magnet then buttoned it up and refiled with 4 quarts of new fluid.



It now drives but shifts very differently than pre problem. Hard 1st to second then soft on all other shifts. Revs up to 2800 or so going to overdrive and occasionally slips out of gear on take off.



Any thoughts on problem or advise on next steps?



139K on truck and changed fluid and filter at 50K and 100K.

 

[cerberusiam]

I was driving to town about 3 miles from my house. I came to a stop and when trying to take off it just reved up and went no where. I checked all gears including R and same result.



I then shut off the truck and let it sit for about 2 minutes. I then started it up and it took off normally. After about 200 yards it slipped out and just reved up. I coasted to a stop and again all gears and R just reved up and no motion.



I finally limped home by stopping and shutting down 4 to 5 more times to get it going.



I dropped the pan at home and found blackish purple fluid whth a metalic sheet swirling around in it. I went ahead and changed the filter and cleaned off 3/4 of an inch of sludge/metalic crap off the magnet then buttoned it up and refiled with 4 quarts of new fluid.



It now drives but shifts very differently than pre problem. Hard 1st to second then soft on all other shifts. Revs up to 2800 or so going to overdrive and occasionally slips out of gear on take off.



Any thoughts on problem or advise on next steps?



139K on truck and changed fluid and filter at 50K and 100K.

Rebuild time, its toast. If your lucky the shavings have not eaten up the planetaries or shafts too bad. It will be a major rebuild and setup.



Depending on how long you have ahd the Quad, you did pretty well at 139k before it ate itself. The only good thing about it is now you can build it right.

 

[JDKammin]

Sounds like what my truck was doing when the torque convertor clutches went out. Problem was, all that material went thru the valve body and the rest of the transmission. I had a transmission build by Dave Goerend and installed it.

 

[LRutigliano]

Did you have a transmission temp gauge? Did the temp go high before it started to give out?



The reason I ask is that I have a gauge but everyone seems to have a different answer on whether the gauge will tell-tale a transmission problem.



Thanks,

Louis

 

[posey-smoker]

I do not have a guage on the transmission. I did notice the week prior that it began to shift into overdrive later and later in the RPM range. Other than that nothing.

 

[posey-smoker]

New ATS Installed

OK! I have a new ATS installed with the TCC and Co-Pilot. Initially I drove it about 5 miles and it began to have issues.



First when I came to a stop it would not shift down into 1st gear. You know this by the fact that it will not go. I had to manually shift into 1st then into drive to get it to start off in 1st.



I immediately called ATS and they indicated that I needed a special harness to fix this issue. So I babied it until the harness came in and I was able to drop the truck off at the installer. It did not fix the issue. In fact it began to not shift into overdrive also.



My truck has been in the shop for more than 2 weeks now with ATS giving the installer tips on what to check. They have sent various parts to the installer to change without it working properly.



Also other symptoms are the co-pilot will not hold a lock on the TCC as described in the co-pilot guide. Now the Co-pilot is being replaced with another new one.



I am frustrated with ATS because I initially picked up my truck on Friday, August 18 from the local Indiana installer and here it is the 7th of August still without resolution. It is no fault of the installer as they have bent over backwards to get it fixed and they did the install as docuemnted in the installation guide. I consider the transmission DOA as it did not work from the get go. I am going to call the installer again this afternoon prior to flying back to Indiana to see if it is fixed or not.



Does anyone have any thoughts on this?



I am being patient because I work for Microsoft and fly out of town every week and don't need my truck druing the week.

 

[posey-smoker]

Yes I meant July the 18th not August.

 

[fox]

Stay on them, they have been in business long enough to know how to fix these trannys. And don't spend any more money. Once is enough.

 

[cerberusiam]

Sounds like the rebuilder srewed that process up. It would be a stroke of luck if they EVER got it to work right without a full tear down and rebuild. At this point I would be yelling for a new unit over nighted to the installer.

 

[posey-smoker]

OK! Finally got it fixed. Turns out that the VBA, tiny little part necessary on the 03's to make them shift into 1st properly, was bad and the second one sent fixed the problem.



The Co-Pilot seems to be working properly also. I talked to ATS support and they stated that the Co-Pilot was designed to work properly under load. I have been able to lock the transmission in all 4 gears when under load. Not pulling anything well that's different. When accelerating without load it will lock the TCC around the speed I set on the controller. Then it will stay locked at any speed above 62 even if you take your foot out of the pedal. Below 62 as soon as I let off the pedal the lock light goes off but it is still locked and you can tell that by watching the RPM's. At 47 it unlocks no matter what and this is also true when you have the Co-Pilot turned off.



It makes me wonder if it would work properly with an exhaust brake. Certaintly wouldn't want it to unlock when the exhaust brake was supposed to be working. I will post more on this later after further testing.



I have to say that now my truck goes the second you put your foot on the pedal. No more reving up and not hardly going. It just gets it like it should. I have also noticed a mileage increase.