Why not a 10 speed?

[KHousworth]

Why doesn't any manufacturer offer a 9 or 10 speed manual in their pickup trucks?

1. Fuel savings would be great!

2. Added weight would not be that much... another 500 lbs?

3. Lower gearing in the lowe gears, less pressure on the whole setup?

4. Of course only on a manual, people would have to learn how to shift. They will learn.



So why not, the added savings in fuel should far outweigh the added cost of the upgraded transmission.



My 2 cents..... I have been wrong before.

 

[Spooled-up]

Every now and then when I'm distracted, I'll try and shift my G56 into 7th. I wouldn't mind an eaton 9 speed. SSSSHHHHH---CLICK.....

 

[Drewhenry]

Heck I'd like to have the aditional overdrives the 6spd automatics have. Without adding an auxilliary overdrive unit. 7 or 8 spd.

 

[MickeyMiller]

Personally, I could be happy with a 3 or 4 speed... . you only need gears if you don't have enough engine!

 

[Forrest Nearing]

I'd like another overdrive

 

[GHarman]

Personally, I could be happy with a 3 or 4 speed... . you only need gears if you don't have enough engine!

Smaller engine, lower operating RPMS, more gears, better fuel mileage, longer engine life. GregH

 

[jelag]

We have a 9 speed behind a Cat engine in a truck that goes to 56K lbs... and in town without a load it a pain in the you know what when its empty and your trying to up shift...

I do think that an extra gear... splitting the ranges might be better but that's it.....

 

[TCDiesel]

I will never own anything with 7 or 8 again, The only acceptable #s are 5,6,10 Maybe,13 and 15... ?

 

[MSchneider]

give me an 18 with a double over and mybe even a brownie for a set of twin sticks that would be fun. all kinds of gears. alright mybe just a 5 and a 4. for those that dont know what a 5 and a 4 is its a 5 pd main bow with a 4 pd aux or called a brownie yeaaa baby.

 

[donnier]

Years ago, a friend of mine took a Brownie three speed and mated it to the 4 speed in his truck.

As long as he could get traction, that thing would climb anything.

 

[ENafziger]

I've got a G56 and just put in a Mitchell overdrive... it's a gear to gear synchronous 18. 2% overdrive unit that is shifted similar to the G56. It effectively splits the rpm of each gear of the G56, with a double overdrive on top. It doesn't give a gear lower than the stock 1st gear of the G56, but I've got 12 forward gears, 2 reverse, and a double overdrive.

For normal empty driving, you can just leave the overdrive engaged and run the 6 gears on the G56... this is essentially the same setup as having a G56 trans and a 3. 08 rear end.

For pulling heavy, you can put the Mitchell back in 1:1 mode, and just use the stock G56 gearing, or split the gears if you like.

With 37" Toyos, I'm at about 1650 rpm at 75, and 2300 rpm at 100 mph.

I've not had it installed long enough yet to get a good handle on the effect on fuel economy.

--Eric

 

[KHousworth]

Now that sounds like an idea, why dosen't somebody make a better aftermarket transmission for our trucks?

 

[klenger]

More gears would fill in the gaps when towing heavy, but there's only so high you can go and still improve fuel economy. You still have to push 7500 lbs, 6 feet wide, 20 feet long, and 6 feet high through the air and along the pavement.

 

[AH64ID]

I've got a G56 and just put in a Mitchell overdrive... it's a gear to gear synchronous 18. 2% overdrive unit that is shifted similar to the G56. It effectively splits the rpm of each gear of the G56, with a double overdrive on top. It doesn't give a gear lower than the stock 1st gear of the G56, but I've got 12 forward gears, 2 reverse, and a double overdrive.



For normal empty driving, you can just leave the overdrive engaged and run the 6 gears on the G56... this is essentially the same setup as having a G56 trans and a 3. 08 rear end.



For pulling heavy, you can put the Mitchell back in 1:1 mode, and just use the stock G56 gearing, or split the gears if you like.



With 37" Toyos, I'm at about 1650 rpm at 75, and 2300 rpm at 100 mph.



I've not had it installed long enough yet to get a good handle on the effect on fuel economy.



--Eric

Got a Link? All I came up with is old Model A stuff...

 

[ENafziger]

Got a Link? All I came up with is old Model A stuff... <!-- google_ad_section_end -->

I'm not sure if they still produce a model for our trucks or not... I bought mine used. For what it's worth, mine is a Mitchell 3500D.

--Eric

 

[AH64ID]

Hmm, that comes up with nothing.

 

[AKaiser]

give me an 18 with a double over and mybe even a brownie for a set of twin sticks that would be fun. all kinds of gears. alright mybe just a 5 and a 4. for those that dont know what a 5 and a 4 is its a 5 pd main bow with a 4 pd aux or called a brownie yeaaa baby.

We've got one of those in a severely underpowered IHC grain truck. It's a PITA to learn, but when you've got it down, you feel like you've accomplished something. On ours, we really only use the 2d and 3d aux gears for loaded hauling on the road. It just doesn't have enough to pull itself fully loaded with grain above 5x3.

Now, a guy needs a 9 speed, if he's going to run trucks off-road (i. e. grain hauling, log trucks, etc. ) as opposed to a straight 8 or a highway 10. The first gear is the "low hole" gear, and has no high range equivalent.

 

[JDiepstra]

Why doesn't any manufacturer offer a 9 or 10 speed manual in their pickup trucks?

1. Fuel savings would be great!

2. Added weight would not be that much... another 500 lbs?

3. Lower gearing in the lowe gears, less pressure on the whole setup?

4. Of course only on a manual, people would have to learn how to shift. They will learn.



So why not, the added savings in fuel should far outweigh the added cost of the upgraded transmission.



My 2 cents..... I have been wrong before.

You could be and probably are right about all that but I am sure it would not be cost effective to offer.

 

[KHousworth]

I have 5 International 9100 with M11 Cummins in them with 9 speeds. I just wish I had the money and the know how to do it.

 

[nickleinonen]

i am happy with my 6 speed most of the time, but i do find myself reaching for "7th" at times. an extra OD box between the trans & t-case would be fine but would cost more $$$ than i could ever hope to save in fuel [almost 5 years old, and not yet at 70,000 kilometers]