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Industrial deep cycle batteries





Sometimes called "fork lift", "traction" or "stationary" batteries, are used where power is needed over a longer period of time, and are designed to be "deep cycled", or discharged down as low as 20% of full charge (80% DOD, or Depth of Discharge). These are often called traction batteries because of their widespread use in forklifts, golf carts, and floor sweepers (from which we get the "GC" and "FS" series of battery sizes). Deep cycle batteries have much thicker plates than automotive batteries.



Plate Thickness

Plate thickness (of the Positive plate) matters because of a factor called "positive grid corrosion". This ranks among the top 3 reasons for battery failure. The positive (+) plate is what gets eaten away gradually over time, so eventually there is nothing left - it all falls to the bottom as sediment. Thicker plates are directly related to longer life, so other things being equal, the battery with the thickest plates will last the longest.



Automotive batteries typically have plates about . 040" (40/1000") thick, while forklift batteries may have plates more than 1/4" (. 265" for example in the Rolls-Surrette) thick - almost 7 times as thick as auto batteries. The typical golf cart will have plates that are around . 07 to . 11" thick. The Concorde AGM's are . 115", The Rolls-Surrette L-16 type (CH460) is . 150", and the US Battery and Trojan L-16 types are . 090".



Most industrial deep-cycle batteries use Lead-Antimony plates rather than the Lead-Calcium used in AGM or gelled deep-cycle batteries. The Antimony increases plate life and strength, but increases gassing and water loss. This is why most industrial batteries have to be checked often for water level if you do not have Hydrocaps. The self discharge of batteries with Lead-Antimony plates can be high - as much as 1% per day on an older battery. A new AGM typically self-discharges at about 1-2% per month, while an old one may be as much as 2% per week.
 
Funny you should bring up the topic. When I bought my RV 2 1/2 years ago I spec'd 2 6-volt golf cart Interstate batteries instead of the normal car or deep cycle ones. The cost wasn't much more and I figured the benefit if and when I dry camped would be well worth it. I have dry camped somewhat for 3 day weekends and they held up great, but in each case I wasn't working them too hard, so I was never sure how far they would hold out. This past weekend I gave them a 3 1/2 day workout. Was so damp and chilly out in norther N. H. that we had the heat on for 3 days straight. A few times we needed to run the roof vent and oven hood fans. Of course we used the water pump, lights and the fridge uses some juice, too. We were also charging a camera and 2 cell phones off of inverters. The batteries never gave out. I was most pleased and impressed. The dealer said that there was a whole mess of lead in these batteries and I would have to agree. I know that the industrial batteries you link to are even bigger, so they'd be even better. It's absolutely worth the small extra $ and effort to rig up a great 12 volt system.
 
Soooo if you use a deep cycle battery in a normal every day driver that keeps the batteries charged, the batteries may end up going out on you faster? What I mean is if you do not run them down like they should be they will sulfide faster. In my case the truck is driven less now than ever and I need a battery that can be run down to 0 and brought back to life when I need it.
 
Soooo if you use a deep cycle battery in a normal every day driver that keeps the batteries charged, the batteries may end up going out on you faster? What I mean is if you do not run them down like they should be they will sulfide faster. In my case the truck is driven less now than ever and I need a battery that can be run down to 0 and brought back to life when I need it.



Tim, check out the Odyssey Drycell.



Odyssey Drycell Batteries
 
I've always used Trojan brand deep-cycle batteries - both on the RV, and as power for my trolling motor, always got extremely good lifespan, and carefully kept them maintained. There ARE other good batteries as well, biggest controlling factor is the physical size to fit one in...
 
Ditto on the Trojans. It's not that I wouldn't try something else if I thought the price was right for what I was getting. I just have yet to find anything better for the price and endurance .



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