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I have been reading up on beefing up my '96 x-cab 4x4 longbed single-rear-wheel 2500 for carrying a large pickup camper which I hope to find and buy soon. One interesting article talked about a similarly modified chevy that the owner put 19. 5 inch wheels on.

I don't like the new fashion of huge wheels with tiny tires (no sidewalls), but I do recognize the advantages of being able to use commercial 14-ply tires with stiff sidewalls to help eliminate camper sway and handle the weight. Those medium-duty truck tires also wear MUCH longer than 16 or 17 inch rubber. On these tire-eating dodges, that alone would be a blessing.

Is anyone here running that size wheel and tire combo on their single-rear-wheel truck? So far, I can find plenty of 19. 5 wheels for dually applications, but none for non-duallies. Toyo makes a fairly aggressive-tread tire that should work well for my needs, I just need to find the wheels and get some feedback from anyone who has tried this.
 
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I know if you look in past issues of TDR, there was a company that advertised selling 19. 5 wheels and tires for 2500 and 3500. The exact issues I can't remember, but I want to say between issue 30-40. I will try to round up all my issues and look, but, you may be able to find them quicker with the info.
 
I got mine from rickson years ago. I am currently running goodyear's with a pretty aggresive thread however at $400 + each they aint cheap. I do think they last me 2-3 times longer than the 17" so they kinda pay for them selves
 
my 2 cents, we have run huge campers on our trucks even the old 70's 11. 5 Chinooks fully loaded with every option to keep Mom happy, these Dodges will squat a little find there sweet spot and handle it no problem, run your tire of choice in a E rating , we run the firestones... and go see the country.



peace, B
 
I've been running an early set of Rickson's 19. 5 wheels since about 2000. I simply cannot go back to LR E tires; they're too squirrelly/spongy/unpredictable. Their newer wheels are far nicer. Dan and his workers have always been courteous and professional; you'd be hard pressed to find better service.



Dave Fritz (dfritz here, I think) put them on his 2500 for his trips to Alaska. Used to be he wore out a set of new tires on that trip. With the 19. 5 tires, he returned with 50% of the tread left.



The price difference between a 16" 245/75 LR E tire and a 19. 5" 225/70 LR F tire is not that great. But the steering, traction and comfort are generally far better with the 19. 5s.



I got the best mileage from the original set of TY303s: 110K, but the truck was much younger then. The Bridgestone 714s lasted about 45K miles. The Hankook DH01s are wearing somewhat better, but I know I have serious front end wear that causing them to wear out far too soon. Also, because I have the 6" wide wheels, the tread 'curls' a little because the truck doesn't weigh enough to flatten it down; you'll want 6. 75-7. 0" wide wheels. By keeping the beads a little farther apart, the tread should stay flatter on the ground.



While you *can* use the 245/70 and 265/70 tires, you really won't ever need any more than the 225/70 size. They stand about 31" tall, 1. 5-2" taller than the OEM 16" tires.



Hauling hind end cross country, hauling horse dung locally, or hauling a big-ish trailer when I moved down here, the 19. 5's have barely even warmed up. I'd rather zip my truck through mountain hairpin curves than drive a little sports car on the same roads.



I like the 19. 5s, and I ain't goin' back. Though if I found a LR F tire in a more common LT rim size, I could almost be persuaded.
 
I can't help but wonder if the 19. 5's might also help my front tire trashing problem? I know I have to replace every stock dodge component in the frontend first, but the weight of my Boss V snowplow would be better dealt with by heavier duty tires, too.

I like my BFG MudTerrains very much, but I can't afford to keep feeding them to the dodge frontend monster. Time to move way up in tire toughness.
 
I want to keep my overall height between 33 and 35 inches. Will that be a problem with available 19. 5 tire sizes?
 
I want to keep my overall height between 33 and 35 inches. Will that be a problem with available 19. 5 tire sizes?



I don't see how tires are going to effect your height. Perhaps if you had eaten your vegtables when you were younger... . :-laf
 
I don't see how tires are going to effect your height. Perhaps if you had eaten your vegtables when you were younger... . :-laf



33"-35"? Didn't the last of the Munchkins recently die? Oh, wait. That's belittling. Perhaps he meant his overall height when he's laying on his side or back. Oh, wait. That's demeaning. Boy I'm on a roll tonight! I'm killin' me!



SR, yer a good sport to leave yerself open like that. :D :D



225/70/19. 5 is 31. 9 tall, mathematically, but every tire is different.



245. 70/19. 5 is 33" tall, and you'll need wider wheels. And again, every tire is different.



Oh, one other thing. The 19. 5" tire bead is completely different from standard beads. It doesn't 'snap' in tight, like the beads you're used to. It's more like air pressure presses the bead against the wheel. If one weighs enough (there I go again!), one can deflate a 19. 5" tire and break the bead by 'jumping' on the supine tire; it don't take much. This lack of a very tight bead is another reason to go with a slightly wider wheel than called for: with the tread flatter, one can put more air pressure in the tire to keep the tread flat and keep the bead seated. (But then, I'm not sure what difference 10-15 PSI can make in this regard. )
 
Good thing that wasn't a mine because you walked right into it:p



Here's a few pictures of my truck, Apparently I like my kids and dog better than the wife or truck because I got a whole crap load of them and only a few of the truck. I've run it with both the factory center caps on and off. The black on Black I like. I'm not sure of what color truck you have...



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I'm running 245 70 19. 5's on my 06'. The 225's were not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. I'm running "G" rated tires. The Toyo's also come in "H" rated tires. E rated tires with my camper were squishy. When I bought the tires the tire manager mentioned they were a common upgrade for guys with campers. E rated tires with heavy campers can count on at least one blowout per year.


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"I'm not sure of what color truck you have... "



That depends entirely on where I last drove it... :-laf



Those are good looking trucks, guys. I like the way the 19. 5's look. As a semi driver, I know what a difference squishy sidewalls can make to handling, stability, and just plain old "feel".



I like Michelins on my drive axles; but I hate them on my steer axle. Way too soft and flexy in the sidewalls and that makes for some spooky curves and corners at at times.



When you consider the internal friction of belts flexing against each other with each turn of the tire being compunded by very heavy loads and a hot summer day on black asphalt, it is a wonder any tire can take the abuse.



Well, it looks like I need to start hunting for a deal on some 19. 5 wheels... The initial cost of switching is going to be high, but I think it will pay off in tire life as well as handling.
 
I apologize if I didn't really see the question in you original post.



I have 285/70/19. 5 Yokahama TY-303's on Rickson's chrome steel wheels.
 
I checked out Rickson's offerings and noticed they do not offer forged aluminum at all anymore. They do offer Chinese cast aluminum, and, of course, their own in-house super-heavy-duty steel wheels (but you can't get chrome anymore).

My concern is the HUGE increase in unsprung weight the steel wheels and HD tires will be. Unsprung weight is undesirable weight adding stress and wear to the suspension, brakes, shocks, driveline, etc. due to the Law of Inertia. The company I work for is very money-tight and fuel-economy oriented. All of our new semi tractors have forged aluminum wheels that the company believes pay for themselves over steel wheels in fuel savings. Our old tractors had a mix of steel and aluminum so they could compare costs and savings. They would not have paid the large extra money for all-forged-aluminum wheels if the math had not been positively on that side.
 
other companies make the wheels but may require adapters. in May I drove to Tenn hand calculated using gps miles I averaged right around 19 mpg can't remember if it was a little more or less. timing has not been changed or checked since I bought it in 96. parts wear just as quick as they did with factory tires. only diff is I get 3x the tire life
 
I checked out Rickson's offerings and noticed they do not offer forged aluminum at all anymore. They do offer Chinese cast aluminum, and, of course, their own in-house super-heavy-duty steel wheels (but you can't get chrome anymore).

My concern is the HUGE increase in unsprung weight the steel wheels and HD tires will be. Unsprung weight is undesirable weight adding stress and wear to the suspension, brakes, shocks, driveline, etc. due to the Law of Inertia. The company I work for is very money-tight and fuel-economy oriented. All of our new semi tractors have forged aluminum wheels that the company believes pay for themselves over steel wheels in fuel savings. Our old tractors had a mix of steel and aluminum so they could compare costs and savings. They would not have paid the large extra money for all-forged-aluminum wheels if the math had not been positively on that side.

All excellent points worth considering. I've never bought a set but have always read the posts with interest and admired the photos.

SouthWest Wheel, a TX company with a website by their name used to offer some conversion wheels and/or conversion kits. You might want to take a look at their website offerings as you consider your options.
 
I checked out Rickson's offerings and noticed they do not offer forged aluminum at all anymore. They do offer Chinese cast aluminum, and, of course, their own in-house super-heavy-duty steel wheels (but you can't get chrome anymore).

My concern is the HUGE increase in unsprung weight the steel wheels and HD tires will be. Unsprung weight is undesirable weight adding stress and wear to the suspension, brakes, shocks, driveline, etc. due to the Law of Inertia. The company I work for is very money-tight and fuel-economy oriented. All of our new semi tractors have forged aluminum wheels that the company believes pay for themselves over steel wheels in fuel savings. Our old tractors had a mix of steel and aluminum so they could compare costs and savings. They would not have paid the large extra money for all-forged-aluminum wheels if the math had not been positively on that side.

That may be true, but they aren't changing from a completely different type of tire at the same time; they're using the same tire on a different wheel.

I'm not sure I'd call 25% a *huge* increase in mass. I got the powder-coated steel wheels and the 225/70 tires. They weigh a good bit more, but the difference isn't *huge*.

When I put the 19. 5s on (at 60K miles), I didn't notice any change in fuel economy or performance; the added mass made no difference. When I out Amsoil in the engine (at 50K miles), I didn't notice any difference. It was only when I put Amsoil in the diffs and auto trans (at 90K miles) that I noticed a definite improvement in fuel economy.

I believe the four steel tread belts of the 19. 5s (and the single steel sidewall belt) lower the rolling resistance enough to overcome the loss of having a heaver tire/wheel; the net effect on economy is neutral. The rock-solid sidewalls both greatly enhance steering and control and keep the tread firmly planted on the pavement, thus garnering a significant improvement in overall operational safety, whether the pavement is wet or dry (snow is dicey however you slice it).

Years ago, Dan was having trouble with the quality and consistency of the product his suppliers were sending him. When he moved to his 'new' location, he had the room to install the equipment needed to finish (weld, drill and punch) the wheels himself, so that he, and only he, is responsible for the final quality of each wheel. I think whatever he sells today will be a quality product regardless of the origin of the components. Rickson probably do not offer forged aluminium or chrome steel wheels for the simple reason that they could not find a quality supplier of them; most likely the wheels he got too far out-of-round and out-of-true to be comfortable on a lightweight P/U truck.

Remember, the larger and heavier tire needs more overall effort to balance them and make them 'round'. Most medium- and heavy-duty trucks have sufficient mass (weight) to prevent 10-15 pounds of 'out-of-round' mass from being noticed. However, a light P/U will let that weight bounce it around. This is the reason Dan goes to so much trouble to match each tire with each wheel. It's also the reason I have always gone back to his shop for the few adjustments I've needed: local shops, even if they have the Hunter matching balancer, just don't know how to handle a medium- to heavy-duty commercial tire on a light truck. And adjustments became even less necessary once he started using an adhesive to 'bind' the bead to the wheel (yes, I'd had trouble with the wheel slipping on the bead), and once he started using the glass balancing beads inside the tire.

People have spoken disparagingly (though humorously) about the skinny-a. . ed tires on my truck. They just won't understand the huge difference those 225/70s make in handling and safety, especially for someone who keeps forgetting that he isn't Speed Racer driving an uber-ideal sports car. I *like* my 6000# sports car simply because it dern near handles like one, and the tires are a large part of that.

If you really want a 33-35" tall tire, stay away from the 19. 5s, because the 245 and 265 series tires are simply far more than a light pickup truck needs or can use; they're also far too heavy. The 225/70/19. 5 tire is all any pickup truck needs; they exceed the vehicle and axle ratings of nearly all pickup trucks and nearly all P/U truck usages. If bling is more important, get a 17", 18" ,or 20" wheel with appropriate heavy-car tires. But if you're willing to trade a little bling for extra performance and significantly more operational safety, get the 225/70/19. 5 tire/wheel from Rickson.
 
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