Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Anybody seen or have a Jarrett Rifle ?

[hammersley]

They claim to be the World's Most Accurate Hunting Rifle..... and for the $$$ they better be real good.....



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[LFarmer]

I have a friend who has one in 300 Jarrett. Very nice, custom fit 400+ yards accurate. I just don't think I'll need a $9000 rifle.

 

[Dl5treez]

Status symbol... good way for the rich to spend disposable income.

 

[GHarman]

Status symbol... good way for the rich to spend disposable income.

Sorry, My Friend. The same can be said about diesel trucks. Needs vs wants. A Custom rifle need not be a beautiful piece of art work any more than a precision tool or an expression of scientific or competive interest. A "beanfield rifle" or western game rifle for the open country of the Rocky Mountains or a varmint getter is not always available, over the counter. There are specialty requirements, not met by production offerings, just like modifying the Cummins to run better and more efficiently or all out racing. If you are satisfied with minute of barn door accuracy, that is good, for you. I much prefer to thread the bullet through the key hole on the latch plate on the barn door at 1/4 mile. If accuracy, delivery of energy to a specific point is not your goal, a shotgun works great and no one will look down their nose at you for meeting your personal requirements. If you use it, or not, who determines the status symbol? Some of my questions were; does it work for my purpose, do I have the time and money to build it, can I make cases for it and the potential accuracy of the rifle, can I rebuild it? I never really cared about what others think about my choices! Respectfully, GregH

 

[Dl5treez]

Sorry, My Friend. The same can be said about diesel trucks. Needs vs wants. A Custom rifle need not be a beautiful piece of art work any more than a precision tool or an expression of scientific or competive interest. A "beanfield rifle" or western game rifle for the open country of the Rocky Mountains or a varmint getter is not always available, over the counter. There are specialty requirements, not met by production offerings, just like modifying the Cummins to run better and more efficiently or all out racing. If you are satisfied with minute of barn door accuracy, that is good, for you. I much prefer to thread the bullet through the key hole on the latch plate on the barn door at 1/4 mile. If accuracy, delivery of energy to a specific point is not your goal, a shotgun works great and no one will look down their nose at you for meeting your personal requirements. If you use it, or not, who determines the status symbol? Some of my questions were; does it work for my purpose, do I have the time and money to build it, can I make cases for it and the potential accuracy of the rifle, can I rebuild it? I never really cared about what others think about my choices! Respectfully, GregH

So, in short, anyone who dispels the myth of a Jarrett is an inaccurate non-believer who deserves to wade in their own inability to be any good with an off-the-shelf or even moderately tuned 'normal' rifle.

Jarrett marketing at it's finest.

Jarrett Signature Series Rifles:

"Signature Series Starting at $7,640. 00"

Our accuracy guarantee is 1/2 M. O. A. at 100 yards on all . 30 caliber or smaller chamberings, while everything above . 30 caliber is 7/10ths or better.


Tikka guarantees their T3 to shoot 1" MOA @ 100 yards or they'll buy it back. Every gun, every caliber. Period.

A Tikka T3 Lite in Stainless/Synthetic 270WSM is less than $650 if you shop around, and will do anything long range you need, unless of course a person is one of those who just has to be foolish enough to try and take a mountain goat @ 890 yards to say that he did, although it is probably capable of that as well in the hands of the right shooter.

A Kimber Talkeetna will do anything that Jarrett's Professional Hunter series will do, for under $2,000.

Oh wait, I guess Kimber doesn't say the action can be taken out of the stock and scope installed returned to zero... . too bad most dangerous game shots, well I should say most dangerous game shots taken by those with a clue, are done so inside of 100 yards, most inside of 75 yards, and many inside of 50 yards. Who has time to look through the scope when a lion is on full charge @ 50 yards? Nobody... that's why a true DG rifle has nice iron sights.

. . and who disassembles a rifle, puts it back together, and doesn't check fire it first to verify sighting? If you do that, you re-adjust and are done. So the $10,000 Jarrett saves you what, 5 minutes?

Did Jarrett build the 7x57 that D. A. Bell used to kill a whole slug of those 1,000+ elephants he dropped? Must have, otherwise how could such a small caliber take down such a large animal? Mr. Bell must have been a good shot to do that 100 years ago, before computers, CNC machines, and uber unobtanium metals and proprietary finishes that will neutralize hydrochloric acid and double as the fountain of youth when you lick it.

Or, perhaps, just maybe, nearly every rifle on the market today is more accurate than the vast majority of souls who will ever pick it up, and Jarrett is capitalizing on those few who think that "I own the best, because they say it is, and therefore I am king of all I survey. "


Sorry... . not sold. I'll keep my inaccurate clunkers, since they work. Kenny Jarrett and company build a fine rifle, just not needed, unless you have the bucks or want the status... .

A gun is only as good as the person holding it. If someone has the ability to need a Jarrett because no other gun is good enough... well, I'd like to watch them shoot my rifles to see how bad they really are, because they're all more accurate than I am already.

Cheers!

Dan-

 

[GHarman]

My Friend, You dont understand. One, $9000 is alot of money, but! Jarret was the builder of the original "Beanfield Rifle". The Remington Sendero and other brand rifles that copied that idea merely were take offs on that concept. The rifles you see, over the counter today, were generally concepts that originated in the mind and on the bench of a custom gunsmith. After many moons, the major gunmakers would pick up the concept and run with it. Albeit, alot cheaper.

Yes you can kill an elephant with a 7X57, and I think that is a fine round as well as many other well known cartridges, such as the . 308 Winchester (building one of these right now), . 30/06, and . 45/70. I do not have magnumitis and have built my own rifles for many decades.

Yes, Jarrett is cashing in on his reputation as a custom 'smith! Good for him. Capitalism at its finest.

One point I am trying to make is that I see no sales literature that markets status as a reason to purchase his product. Pride in ownership is one thing, I reckon I dont hang with the status crowd.

BTW, I have a few clunkers in my gun cabinet, my-own-self. However, they shoot less than 1 MOA, otherwise, they get rebuilt, With two exeptions, my Dads rifles.

Jarrets 1/2 MOA claim is impressive and is a far cry from 1 MOA!

If you want a TIKKA TRG-42, . 338 Laupa or a TRG-22 in . 308 Winchester, you will pay $3000. 00 plus. So Tikka has their extended price line, also.

So this goes back to other point! Is yer Diesel Truck a Grocery Getter, An RV with trailer or a race machine? I see only needs vs wants. Respectfully, GregH

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

Nice rifle, but if I was going to drop that much, I would go for a Barrett . 50, they make good varmit rifles!!

 

[GHarman]

Nice rifle, but if I was going to drop that much, I would go for a Barrett . 50, they make good varmit rifles!!

:-laf:-laf:-laf Good Idea! GregH

 

[SRath]

I look at such rifles like I used to look at $10,000 stereo systems: If my ears aren't good enough to tell the difference between a $1000 stereo and a $10,000 stereo, I probably don't need to spend the extra $9,000.

Now $10,000 shotguns are a little different. They are beautiful works of art. I'll never own one, and I prefer you keep your's away from me in case it gets a mystery scratch that someone needs blamed for, but I sure do like looking at them. Once.

I don't know why rifles fall strictly into "business class" for me. Maybe because there are so many trap and skeet and sporting clay ranges and social clubs vs. rifle ranges? I LOVE seeing guys spend half a year's wages (for me) on a new shotgun and then not improving their score one bit and still getting beat by a kid with an old 870 or 1100.

But, hey! If I had money, LOTS of money, I'd probably own one, too.

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

I agree! It kind of goes back to when I took a hand to hand/ knife combat course with the Army. When we started blade training, a Command SGT Major said, "Remember, it aint the knife, it is the man using the knife!"

I think the most expensive shotgun I have seen was at a Cabelas gun library for $45,000! If I remember right, it was a Parker Hale????

 

[SRadke]

1/2 minute of angle is more accurate than me and honestly more accurate than a large percentage of the scopes on the market. I have no need for it. I do have a couple 50 bmg's for when the varmints get crazy though!

-Scott

 

[Dl5treez]

My Friend, You dont understand. One, $9000 is alot of money, but! Jarret was the builder of the original "Beanfield Rifle". The Remington Sendero and other brand rifles that copied that idea merely were take offs on that concept. The rifles you see, over the counter today, were generally concepts that originated in the mind and on the bench of a custom gunsmith. After many moons, the major gunmakers would pick up the concept and run with it. Albeit, alot cheaper.

Yes you can kill an elephant with a 7X57, and I think that is a fine round as well as many other well known cartridges, such as the . 308 Winchester (building one of these right now), . 30/06, and . 45/70. I do not have magnumitis and have built my own rifles for many decades.

Yes, Jarrett is cashing in on his reputation as a custom 'smith! Good for him. Capitalism at its finest.

One point I am trying to make is that I see no sales literature that markets status as a reason to purchase his product. Pride in ownership is one thing, I reckon I dont hang with the status crowd.

BTW, I have a few clunkers in my gun cabinet, my-own-self. However, they shoot less than 1 MOA, otherwise, they get rebuilt, With two exeptions, my Dads rifles.

Jarrets 1/2 MOA claim is impressive and is a far cry from 1 MOA!

If you want a TIKKA TRG-42, . 338 Laupa or a TRG-22 in . 308 Winchester, you will pay $3000. 00 plus. So Tikka has their extended price line, also.

So this goes back to other point! Is yer Diesel Truck a Grocery Getter, An RV with trailer or a race machine? I see only needs vs wants. Respectfully, GregH

1" MOA will kill anything. That is very precise bullet placement.



1/2" MOA is extremely precise, you are very much right about that. Will every owner who takes possession of a Jarrett be able to do that? Is there really a need for that.



You said it yourself, "minute of barn door" effectively proving the point that without a Jarrett, a shooter is grasping at straws trying to toss a rock through a hoola hoop blindfolded, or something like that. All kidding aside, we both know the percentage of people who buy a Jarrett and actually can use it is much smaller than those who buy it to say they have one and think it makes them a good shot by proxy.



I was just saying that exceptional guaranteed accuracy can be had for much less.....



I'm not arguing the quality of the rifle... . I'm arguing the practical usefulness versus other firearms with similar capabilities for 1/10th the price (or less) and Jarrett's own admission that his guns will somehow make you a supreme marksman just by owning one, and just actually how good these things are with off the shelf loads.



Does Jarrett guarantee that accuracy and level of performance with any off the shelf or handloaded round, or is it strictly with the optimum load makeup they present you with when you get the gun? I'm curious.



Great discussion, thanks!



Dan

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

No doubt that they are great rifles. I have a Savage 110 Tactical in . 300 Win Mag that I had a little trigger work done, put a Simmons ATEC scope on it, fed it some of my 150 gr. bt loads, and it will shoot a 5/8" group all day long for less then $1,000! It will drop a deer, ground hog, engine block or even a egg at 300 yds!

 

[Dl5treez]

thread split

Okay, since I feel a bit guilty about hijacking hammersly's thread about Jarrett's and getting GHarmon to start talking about his crazy awesome rifles, I have split the thread back to:



1. The original Jarrett rifle thread... that's this one.



2. And a new LONG RANCE ACCURACY thread... . here:

https://www.turbodieselregister.com.../215635-long-range-accuracy-thanks-gregh.html





Thanks to everyone for two great discusssions! Hopefully both threads can go on seamlessly... I promise to behave and not instigate any further hijacking.



Cheers! Dan-