Archived After Fuel filter change, no start.

[Sled Dog]

Title explains it, had pump running more than long enough several times. Twice started for a few seconds, then died, now, won't start. Sorry 05. Any ideas? Was careful to keep it clean.

 

[Sled Dog]

Got it, It just took a Lot longer... ... ... ... ... ... . than usual. Kinda Stressed Me Out. :-laf

 

[PBJ2500CTD]

Sled Dog,

Did you fill the filter canister with clean fuel prior to buttoning up?

 

[Sled Dog]

Negative... ... never have. I always completely empty the bowl dry with a shop vac to get all the crude out of it.

 

[PBJ2500CTD]

Burrrrrppp...

Yer baby probably ingested a bubble of air that took a little extra time to burp it out.
Many people successfully change out the filter without filling the cannister first - using the lift pump cycling method to fill it after closing things up. The potential for a large air pocket to remain in the cannister exists using that method.
The FSM has a bold statement: If filter housing (cannister) is not filled with clean diesel fuel before installation, manual air bleeding of fuel system may be necessary (temporary rough running may occur). If necessary refer to Air Bleed Procedures.
This may fall into the same category of filling your oil filter with engine oil prior to installing it on the vehicle. You get a few seconds of air (no lube) in the system. Will it make a difference in longevity - I don't think anyone is taking the time to track it, and everyone is happy with their methodology.
Glad to hear you got 'er runnin' without lots of $$$ and #@$%!#@$%!:-laf

 

[Sled Dog]

Yeah, I always fill the oil filter, will be filling the fuel canister from now on.

Been sorta afraid some funk would get into the intake before the filter goes on attached to the cap.

Also tried putting the filter on the intake then filled with fuel, but had a hard time getting the cap tight as the prongs of the cap go over the filter.

Am really Anal about keeping trash out of the injectors.

 

[PBJ2500CTD]

Oh yeah... Don't fill to the brim, and lower the filter in slowly - allow some space for the filter's volume... it doesn't have to be 100% full, just mostly full.

 

[LVJUNIOR]

It was suggested on a previous post that you pump the primer until you hear the overflow valve squeak. I have done it that way ever since and it fires off instantly.

 

[Missouri Mule]

LVJUNIOR, Its a 3rd generation(20005 ctd)not 2nd generation 12 valve.

 

[AH64ID]

Yer baby probably ingested a bubble of air that took a little extra time to burp it out.
Many people successfully change out the filter without filling the cannister first - using the lift pump cycling method to fill it after closing things up. The potential for a large air pocket to remain in the cannister exists using that method.
The FSM has a bold statement: If filter housing (cannister) is not filled with clean diesel fuel before installation, manual air bleeding of fuel system may be necessary (temporary rough running may occur). If necessary refer to Air Bleed Procedures.
This may fall into the same category of filling your oil filter with engine oil prior to installing it on the vehicle. You get a few seconds of air (no lube) in the system. Will it make a difference in longevity - I don't think anyone is taking the time to track it, and everyone is happy with their methodology.
Glad to hear you got 'er runnin' without lots of $$$ and #@$%!#@$%!:-laf

That data is NOT accurate for HPCR's.

I would never put unfiltered fuel in my canister, it will allow contaminates to get into the injection pump and injectors.

From the 05 Service Manual.

Refer to maintenance schedules for recommended fuel filter replacement intervals.
1. Thoroughly clean inside of filter housing, filter cap and all related components.
2. Fuel Filter:
a. The engine has a self-priming low-pressure fuel system. Refer to Standard Procedures-Fuel System
Priming.
b. Install new o-ring to canister lid and lubricate o-ring with clean engine oil.
c. Position new element to canister lid. Place this assembly into canister by rotating clockwise.
d. Tighten cap to 34 N·m (25 ft. lbs. ) torque. Do not overtighten cap.

STANDARD PROCEDURE - FUEL SYSTEM PRIMING
A certain amount of air becomes trapped in the fuel system when fuel system components on the supply and/or
high-pressure side are serviced or replaced. Fuel system priming is accomplished using the electric fuel transfer (lift)
pump.
Servicing or replacing fuel system components will not require fuel system priming.
The fuel transfer (lift) pump is self-priming: When the key is first turned on (without cranking engine), the pump
operates for approximately 1 to 2 second and then shuts off (Note: When ambient temperatures are cold enough to
cause the intake air heaters to operate, the fuel lift pump will operate during the entire intake air pre-heat cycle).
The pump will also operate for up to 25 seconds after the starter is quickly engaged, and then disengaged without
allowing the engine to start. The pump shuts off immediately if the key is on and the engine stops running.
1. Turn key to CRANK position and quickly release key to ON position before engine starts. This will operate fuel
transfer pump for approximately 25 seconds.
2. Crank engine. If the engine does not start after 25 seconds, turn key to OFF position, and leave it off for at least
5 seconds. Repeat previous step until engine starts.
3. Fuel system priming is now completed.
4. Attempt to start engine. If engine will not start, proceed to following steps. When engine does start, it may run
erratically and be noisy for a few minutes. This is a normal condition.
CAUTION: Do not engage the starter motor for more than 30 seconds at a time. Allow two minutes between
cranking intervals.
5. Perform previous fuel priming procedure steps using fuel transfer pump. Be sure fuel is present at fuel tank.
6. Crank the engine for 30 seconds at a time to allow fuel system to prime.
WARNING: THE FUEL INJECTION PUMP SUPPLIES EXTREMELY HIGH FUEL PRESSURE TO EACH INDIVIDUAL
INJECTOR THROUGH THE HIGH-PRESSURE LINES. FUEL UNDER THIS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE CAN
PENETRATE THE SKIN AND CAUSE PERSONAL INJURY. WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES AND ADEQUATE PROTECTIVE
CLOTHING. DO NOT LOOSEN FUEL FITTINGS WHILE ENGINE IS RUNNING.
WARNING: ENGINE MAY START WHILE CRANKING STARTER MOTOR.
SPECIFICATIONS
FUEL

 

[PBJ2500CTD]

That data is NOT accurate for HPCR's.

I would never put unfiltered fuel in my canister, it will allow contaminates to get into the injection pump and injectors.

From the 05 Service Manual.

Silly Gen 2 me...
Sorry for the NOT Gen 3 info Sled Dog...