fuel additives.....again

[d-iron]

Searched old posts. Seemed like most are from back before the diesel was changed. Talked to a guy who works on injection pumps who said since diesel was changed need to use additives in fuel to lube injection pump. Any ideas?

 

[BIGNASTY]

Amalgamated

 

[ray1933]

Fuel Additives

Amalgamated

I agree on that 100%. I have used various additives since getting my first Dodge Diesel in 91, then the 95 and now the 03. Amalgamated has proven to me to be the best and cost less per treatment than Stanadyne or any others.



They now have it in quarts, 2 1/2 gallon containers along with the 5 gallon one.

The winter blend cost a little more than the summer blend.

The summer blend takes 9 oz for 30 gallons and the winter blend takes 12 oz.



We get a lot of fruit juice in the 12 oz bottles and that is what I carry my additive in. Drivers door compartment will hold several if needed for a long trip.

 

[steved]

Searched old posts. Seemed like most are from back before the diesel was changed. Talked to a guy who works on injection pumps who said since diesel was changed need to use additives in fuel to lube injection pump. Any ideas?

The fuel providers add their own additives at the rack to make up the difference... they are not needed unless you want to run them.

Overuse of additives *may* actually do more harm than good...

 

[BIGNASTY]

The fuel providers add their own additives at the rack to make up the difference... they are not needed unless you want to run them.



Overuse of additives *may* actually do more harm than good...

You forgot to add that the additive they add is not only to lube but to cut down the static elect. when you load diesel in a compartment after you haul gas in it first or the other way it really dont matter it used to look like a sparkler in the trailer. Some add both some are combined lube/static. Took in a sample of Amalgamated to our lab rat at work he was impressed with the lube part but what turned his cookie was the combustion and cetane increase He owns a diesel truck but its not the good kind its a CHEBY. If a major oil company is MADE to put it in their fuel you can rest assured that it will be the very MIN. amount they can get away with. Thats how the made 46 BILLION dollars profit. They could give a S*** less about you and your pride and joy. Besides most only keep a car for less than 200 thousand and get rid of it for a newer toy and you will never see if your investment in a fuel/lube additive pays off.

 

[WCPoe]

Diesel Power test

Diesel power magazine just ran a test showing some positive results.



Fuel Additive Test - Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine

 

[bheiting]

Diesel power magazine just ran a test showing some positive results.



Fuel Additive Test - Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine

The Diesel Power test read like an infomercial. How objective is a mag

testing it's advertisers products. Cummins has given thumbs down to

after market fuel additives until recently, as they now have a line of

their own. Guess they changed their mind. A lubricity test has been

listed on here in the past. You can find it and more with a forum search.

 

[jleons]

Hello

Interesting article. My 96 Dodge has over 255,000. Get's 20. 4 mpg, and I change the oil @ around 12,000 miles. I have been using Amagamated for fuel and LE-8800 engine oil, with no problems and all original components.

Good Driving,

JL

 

[GAmes]

Hello

Interesting article. My 96 Dodge has over 255,000. Get's 20. 4 mpg, and I change the oil @ around 12,000 miles. I have been using Amagamated for fuel and LE-8800 engine oil, with no problems and all original components.

Good Driving,

JL

I have 718,000 ,miles on my 12 valve and only use an additive if I buy fuel in the south and am heading to the great white north. Well over 300k is while using ULSD. I just changed the lift pump for the second time and have only replaced the injectors once. Have never had the injector pump worked on. You will never convince me that additives are anything but snake oil, no matter which brand.

 

[Diesel Power]

The Best combo i have found is Amsoil performance additive, and the Amsoil cetain improver combined with the 2-stroke oil. This same combo can be used with stanadyn PI instead of the amsoil too.



But milage is best when useing the amsoil stuff, about a 3-4 MPG will be seen when driving between 55-64 mph.



anyone else seen these results?

 

[bromano676]

I run the stanadyne and I see it in the mpg. about 1 -1. 5 better

 

[amsoilman]

The Best combo i have found is Amsoil performance additive, and the Amsoil cetain improver combined with the 2-stroke oil. This same combo can be used with stanadyn PI instead of the amsoil too.



But milage is best when useing the amsoil stuff, about a 3-4 MPG will be seen when driving between 55-64 mph.



anyone else seen these results?

I have seen only a 1. 5-2 MPG improvement in useing the Amsoil stuff alone.

 

[2broke2smoke]

fwiw



i have never used a drop of additive to date



275k on '91



75k on '03



70k on '06



VP just died on '01 at 190k ...



610k miles and 0$ in additives ...



if i had run additives i could have purchased a used motor by now

 

[Diesel Power]

I have seen only a 1. 5-2 MPG improvement in useing the Amsoil stuff alone.

the 2-stroke oil helps make the difference. but it does smoke alittle more

 

[Hammer]

the 2-stroke oil helps make the difference. but it does smoke alittle more

Along time ago I read the "2 stroke" oil hype and how its was the next greatest thing to the savior for our pumps and trucks. So knowning we had a dyno rip coming up I started running it a month and a half ahead of time to see what it would do both in milage increases or added power.



As a good snake oil salesman always says...

Watch the movement of the hands not the eyes as if you do not you will miss the true meaning of what happens. ZERO added MPG in 6 weeks and on the dyno ZERO added HP when we rolled the truck.



I agree with 2broke2smoke. . Make better use of the money elsewhere... ... . Andy

 

[GAmes]

I found that by adding a gallon of diesel to 4 gallons of diesel my unloaded mileage increases 5 MILES PER GALLON and it costs less than all the snake oil additives:-laf:-laf I find the claims for BTU content of 2 cycle oil and the other additives highly amusing. It is, after all, the BTUs that provide the power.

 

[Carlacee]

Biodiesel is the best additive

Searched old posts. Seemed like most are from back before the diesel was changed. Talked to a guy who works on injection pumps who said since diesel was changed need to use additives in fuel to lube injection pump. Any ideas?

This report (test) is a must read in my opinon.



Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place



Clarified all my questions,



Cee

 

[steved]

This report (test) is a must read in my opinon.



Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place



Clarified all my questions,



Cee

One thing to point out about that study... they used UNADDITIZED fuel, which is not the same as you get at the pump; the fuel suppliers add their own additives to typically meet the ASTM/state lubricicity standards.

 

[GAmes]

This report (test) is a must read in my opinon.



Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place



Clarified all my questions,



Cee

What was glaringly obvious was the premise that pump fuel needs added lube to start with. Since the guy had the equipment why didn't he run tests on fuel from 10 or 20 different truck stops? There is also no data about how the tested products react with the lubricity agents in pump fuel. I guess I'm a cynic about internet data, but the "study" was totally bogus as far as I'm concerned.



It is only fitting that it is posted on the D-Max forums. D/A owners as a group are about the most gullible people on earth. They believe the Allison, while in tow/haul mode, provides as much engine braking as having an exhaust brake. Some think there is an actual transmission brake in there. They think the D-Max is just as capable of getting to 500k miles as a Cummins, although no one has ever seen one actually go that far. Oh, and there are no engine heating issues either:-laf

 

[Hammer]

One thing to point out about that study... they used UNADDITIZED fuel,

Steve-Games...

I am glad I was not the only one who seen this and thought how one sided of a internet test it was... ..... Andy



P. S. -Now you KNOW how much more SUPERIOR the D-Max's and PowerStrokes are to our trucks. If you have any question just ask one of their owners,you KNOW they will tell you. . LMAO!