Pics of 2011 Ford 6.7

[JUeckert]

This could turn into a ******* match all day long about all three brands, for the simple fact all three are subject to have issue's, no matter what the year model. I have a brother in law with a 6. 7 dodge, he swears after this one is unloaded he will never own another dodge again. Considering the a** beating he took over the 7 years and 160k miles he owned his 01' 24v, i cant say i blame him. Knowing the track records my 7. 3 fords have had, and the lifestyle they live, he now wants a clean used one to replace his dodge. Sad part is, his own brother had a very high mileage 96' model 7. 3, that had a good track record. Had he took my advice and bought a used 7. 3, or snagged up one the remaing 5. 9's left on the lot's when the new truck bug hit him[ like i suggested] he'd likely be a happy camper. The funny thing is, his own father talked him out of a ford purchase when he bought the 01' 24v, dear daddy had a 01' ho 24v at the time[still does], it's had more then a couple of issues along the way. Probably the biggest issue he's ever had was getting that dodge pulled out from under their 5'ver and getting replaced by one of my fords when he broke down. Folks drive what you wanna drive, learn it's weakness, prevent it from failing if you can, and cross your fingers it's not you that's on the side road.

 

[ACerf]

I can see that Ford is keeps making the Super Duty Uglier by the year! And the engine area looks like some had no idea what to do with the hoses! I hope for their sake they have better luck with the new engine... but somehow I doubt it. With all the problems the Power Stroke had it makes me wonder what people are thinking when they keep buying them? As I always say; Serious Pickups have a Cummins Diesel! Oo.

 

[ACerf]

This could turn into a ******* match all day long about all three brands, for the simple fact all three are subject to have issue's, no matter what the year model. I have a brother in law with a 6. 7 dodge, he swears after this one is unloaded he will never own another dodge again. Considering the a** beating he took over the 7 years and 160k miles he owned his 01' 24v, i cant say i blame him. Knowing the track records my 7. 3 fords have had, and the lifestyle they live, he now wants a clean used one to replace his dodge. Sad part is, his own brother had a very high mileage 96' model 7. 3, that had a good track record. Had he took my advice and bought a used 7. 3, or snagged up one the remaing 5. 9's left on the lot's when the new truck bug hit him[ like i suggested] he'd likely be a happy camper. The funny thing is, his own father talked him out of a ford purchase when he bought the 01' 24v, dear daddy had a 01' ho 24v at the time[still does], it's had more then a couple of issues along the way. Probably the biggest issue he's ever had was getting that dodge pulled out from under their 5'ver and getting replaced by one of my fords when he broke down. Folks drive what you wanna drive, learn it's weakness, prevent it from failing if you can, and cross your fingers it's not you that's on the side road.

I bet if he had a bought a 6. 0 Power Stroke he would have been saying the same thing about it! I have known so many people that wish they had not bought a Ford with that engine. Overall the Cummins/Dodge is a much better setup than the Ford, plus it is Major UGLY. Sometimes people like to find fault with something, just to have something to complain about. I would buy a GMC turck before buying a Ford, if I didn't have a choice to buy a Dodge. If Dodge had gone out of business you can bet that Ford would have been all over Cummins to get that engine in their Trucks! So tell your brother in law to stay with what he has, because it isn't going to get better with the Ford! I can just see your writing this again some day saying he wished he had kept the Dodge. :-laf

 

[Gonzo 1066]

Looks as ugly as my dead grandmothers butt! What were the designers thiniking on this thing?

 

[Matt400]

As bad as it looks under the engine compartment I think the underhood is an improvement over the current 6. 4

Yes, and its reported you don't have to pull the cab for access to the turbo. I hope it's a good one, competition is good and Ford already builds a decent truck. Its their Triton gas & power stroke diesels I don't care for. If this new design works out it will be one sweet truck IMO.



'strokeThis_'07 Thanks for sharing the pics!

 

[HBarlow]

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What were the designers thiniking on this thing?

Perhaps they were thinking, "what difference does it make how it looks?" "It will probably be another loser just like the 6. 0 and 6. 4 were and won't sell anyway. "

Morale has got to be a problem at Ford truck division with such a long history of loser engines.

 

['strokeThis_'07]

If Dodge had gone out of business you can bet that Ford would have been all over Cummins to get that engine in their Trucks!

Id make ALOT of money going against that bet...



Ford doesnt want Cummins, nor does GM. IF Dodge and Cummins where to split, you can say bye-bye to Cummins in the lightduty market

 

[Cumminsduallyguy04]

There's an engine inside that mess you say?:-laf



I pity the poor ford mechanic that has to work on that thing! Do anything more than an oil change and it looks like the cab has to come off. Hopefully its got quick disconnects on all the electronics. Don't drop anything either or else you may never see it again.

most tech's spend alot of money in tools. snap-on. matco. etc. drop your tool and try fishing for it with a magentic what is the magnet gonna stick to? the tool or 1 mile of plumbing stuffed under the hood of the ford. I can only imagine the next tech that does a major repair. Oh i found a nice set of pliers.



whats up with the interiors. My dad is a supervisor for a utlity company. all the newer fords have junkyard chevy seats cause the ford seats werent too comfy to drive all over washington metro area all day, job to job. i think thats why they just bought 2 new gas chevy's. he didnt like the fords.

 

[ACerf]

Id make ALOT of money going against that bet...



Ford doesnt want Cummins, nor does GM. IF Dodge and Cummins where to split, you can say bye-bye to Cummins in the lightduty market

Don't kid yourself. If Dodge was out of the picture Ford would jump on the Cummins! Why do you think they tried to buy it a few years back (for those of you that think Ford owned Cummins, it never happened). I agree that GM would not care, but given Ford's crap engines of late the, Cummins would be life saver for them.

 

[Dl5treez]

Don't kid yourself. If Dodge was out of the picture Ford would jump on the Cummins! Why do you think they tried to buy it a few years back (for those of you that think Ford owned Cummins, it never happened). I agree that GM would not care, but given Ford's crap engines of late the, Cummins would be life saver for them.

Who tried buying what a few years back?

 

[rscurtis]

I agree. A few years back, Ford barely owned Ford, no thanks in part to the almost $1B warranty costs on the 6-litre.

 

[ACerf]

Who tried buying what a few years back?

Back in 2003 Ford tried to acquire Cummins. Problem was DC said that if they put one Cummins engine in a Ford they would sue. Ford backed out of the deal quickly. No point in having and engine manufacture you can not use!

 

[Dl5treez]

Back in 2003 Ford tried to acquire Cummins. Problem was DC said that if they put one Cummins engine in a Ford they would sue. Ford backed out of the deal quickly. No point in having and engine manufacture you can not use!

Do you have documentation in the form of SEC filings, news articles, etc to support this, or is it yet another hearsay internet rumor myth?

 

[BrianJ]

Back in 2003 Ford tried to acquire Cummins. Problem was DC said that if they put one Cummins engine in a Ford they would sue. Ford backed out of the deal quickly. No point in having and engine manufacture you can not use!

Ford has put several thousand CTD's in their F650's. The exclusive contract is only on the light duty trucks.



And the last interest Ford had in Cummins was over 20 years ago when they held less than 10% of cummins stock. In 2003 Ford and Navistar were quite cozy with each other, so I highly doubt that rumor has any legs.

 

['strokeThis_'07]

Don't kid yourself. If Dodge was out of the picture Ford would jump on the Cummins! Why do you think they tried to buy it a few years back (for those of you that think Ford owned Cummins, it never happened). I agree that GM would not care, but given Ford's crap engines of late the, Cummins would be life saver for them.

Im not kidding myself. Facts are facts. Neither Ford nor GM will put an inline-6 cylinder in their heavy duty trucks. Never. Walk up to an average Joe or soccer mom and ask which one makes more power, a 6. 0L V8 or a 5. 9L I6... your going to get most to say the V8. Why? No, its not because it has . 1L larger dispalcement (or, in this case, a whopping 5cu. in. ) but because one has two more cylinders than the other. So, factory rating, lets say you have a theoretical rating for a 6. 7L I6 at 500hp, and a 6. 7L V8 at 400hp... just because of the cylinders, most will say the V8 makes more power.



Lets face it, since the '30s, its basically been pounded into our minds that a V8 is THE ideal platform for packin some ponies. Other than maybe an I4, Id venture to guess theres been far more V8 configurations, throughout history, than any other cylinder configuration. I dont know that, but it wouldnt surprise me...



Its ALL about consumer perception here. And to the average consumer of both Ford and GM, a V8 is the only way to make power. They wont take any I6, regardless whether it says Cummins on the valvecover or not. Ya follow me here? GM has been all about V8s since the '50s, and will remain so for... possibly darn near ever.



So, YOU dont fool yourself. Ford, nor GM, will make a home for Cummins should they seperate from Chrysler.



One could go off the fact that, just within the last few years, Ford had an absolute clean slate to put whatever engine, in whatever cylinder number and configuration, into their trucks. They could have one-upped Cummins and made a superior I6 (hard to believe isnt it?) but never-the-less possible. And... they went with a... V8!!



And I agree, lets see some documentation of this wives' tale "Ford tried to buy Cummins in 2003, but Dodge threatened to sue" bull. Thats every redneck, hillbilly Ford guys wet dream. If you really believe that, then bar any documentation, your kidding yourself.

 

[LRutigliano]

Im not kidding myself. Facts are facts. Neither Ford nor GM will put an inline-6 cylinder in their heavy duty trucks. Never. Walk up to an average Joe or soccer mom and ask which one makes more power, a 6. 0L V8 or a 5. 9L I6... your going to get most to say the V8. Why? No, its not because it has . 1L larger dispalcement (or, in this case, a whopping 5cu. in. ) but because one has two more cylinders than the other. So, factory rating, lets say you have a theoretical rating for a 6. 7L I6 at 500hp, and a 6. 7L V8 at 400hp... just because of the cylinders, most will say the V8 makes more power.



Lets face it, since the '30s, its basically been pounded into our minds that a V8 is THE ideal platform for packin some ponies. Other than maybe an I4, Id venture to guess theres been far more V8 configurations, throughout history, than any other cylinder configuration. I dont know that, but it wouldnt surprise me...



Its ALL about consumer perception here. And to the average consumer of both Ford and GM, a V8 is the only way to make power. They wont take any I6, regardless whether it says Cummins on the valvecover or not. Ya follow me here? GM has been all about V8s since the '50s, and will remain so for... possibly darn near ever.



So, YOU dont fool yourself. Ford, nor GM, will make a home for Cummins should they seperate from Chrysler.



One could go off the fact that, just within the last few years, Ford had an absolute clean slate to put whatever engine, in whatever cylinder number and configuration, into their trucks. They could have one-upped Cummins and made a superior I6 (hard to believe isnt it?) but never-the-less possible. And... they went with a... V8!!



And I agree, lets see some documentation of this wives' tale "Ford tried to buy Cummins in 2003, but Dodge threatened to sue" bull. Thats every redneck, hillbilly Ford guys wet dream. If you really believe that, then bar any documentation, your kidding yourself.

I honestly think Ford went with a V8 for packaging reasons. They built/designed their Super Duty truck around a V8 engine. The I6 will not fit in the Super Duty without jacking up the cab and moving it back.



I think the same for Chevy. Easier to package a V8 in their engine bay.



If you take a look at a Ford or a Chevy with a gasser V8, the engine compartment looks pretty full (but not as complicated as a diesel V8).



If you take a look at a Dodge with a HEMI, the engine looks like the Grinch's heart before he helped the Who people... VERY PUNY in a large cavity.



The Dodge engine compartment and cab were designed around a Medium Duty I6 engine...

 

[mickeyblueyes]

I would like to chime in here. I read several years back that Ford and Chevy decided to go with a V*8 configuration for the simple fact that they wanted their diesels to act and drive like gasser engines. They wanted quick response off the line and they wanted a high reving motor just like a gasser and thats what they have. They average Joe would be appalled getting in to a straight six hearing it chug and then stepping on the gas pedal. GM and Ford designed and gave the public what they where used to ,with the grunt and efficiency of a diesel.

 

[rbattelle]

Its ALL about consumer perception here.

I honestly think Ford went with a V8 for packaging reasons.

... for the simple fact that they wanted their diesels to act and drive like gasser engines.

I think all three of you are probably right, in roughly equal proportions. Marketing said "everyone loves V8s". So engineering built a package to hold a V8.

However, we should remember that Ford offered the venerable 300 I6 in the F-series at least into the early '90s. My point is, at least up until the body style change ('99?) the F-series could theoretically house an inline 6.

Ryan

 

[Dl5treez]

In South America, Brazil specifically, you can buy a brand new Super Duty with Cummins power, right off the showroom floor.



4 cylinders... .





They have Ranger diesels, too...

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

Why was the 5. 9 Cummins the "standard engine option" and 6. 0 "optional equipment" on the F-650 and F-750??? Simply because it's the best!! And FYI, the I-6 Cummins engine fits just fine in any Ford pickup. Just take a look at fordcummins.com - Increase Horsepower with Ford Cummins Diesel conversion kits and see how nice it fits.
I think that pickup manufacturers should be the same as class 8 trucks in that you can have anything you want.
ie... Most Freightliner (Chrysler) trucks are powered by Detroit engines (GM)
I think it would be nice to be able to spec a truck just how you want it to be based on customer choice and then nobody would have a reason to complain about it.
That said, I hope Ford does well with the new engine and people get what they pay for. I have owned vehicles from all of the American manufactures and each one has its quirks and benefits...
I am a "die hard" Cummins fan, love the comfort and smooth ride of the early 90's Chevy, and love the looks of the 94-97 Ford... Too bad I can't have all of it in one package:{