Is this why out trucks have so many stupid problems....???

[AABEN]

How many guys in that video 8/10 ,and then return to work, How many UAWs on that shift? How many knew they were drinking at break and returning to work? AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT..... UNION BROTHER HOOD AT ITS BEST Ugh..... The really said part is the law will probably protect them form permanently being fired. You DON'T catch drug use and drinking,YOU DECIDE TO TO THEM. and when to do them. . Is it to much to ask to be Alcohol and Drug free for 8/10 hrs daily?

If it was not for the union you would be working at slave wages now! Yes there is some no good people that gives the Union a bad name! But when a good worker does good you will never hear about it! Bad news is what sales I can only think of to good news both was about good pilots landing air plane.

 

[AABEN]

dont start the union thing again some get P Oed when you talk about the slackers (they may have been a slacker)

Why do you want to call some one a name that you don't even know?? It jest goes to show that you was not rased up very good OR you have gone the other way!!

 

[TCDiesel]

If it was not for the union you would be working at slave wages now! Yes there is some no good people that gives the Union a bad name! But when a good worker does good you will never hear about it! Bad news is what sales I can only think of to good news both was about good pilots landing air plane.

Ok . . let this and play out... . I bet the Union takes the stand that these Guys should keep their Jobs... No every company that I have work for... this Includes ,Cat,Diesel services,UPS,Bioclean,etc. Paid Me want I wanted. . I don't pay someone to keep My job. . MY employers and customer are happy to pay Me for the service I rendered to them. The guys ( and every Person who knew they were drinking and doing drugs and immediately returning to work are worthless employee's).

 

[Grizzly]

That is why the country is in a bad shape!! Jest give your money to Japan they are the one that jumped us in Pearl Harbor and killed hundred of are people in World War 2 I will not buy a Japan own car comp car! Did you loose any of your family in that WAR ??

My Toyota's were built in Georgetown, Kentucky by American non-union auto workers. I'd buy a horse and buggy before I buy another Furd or GM because the UAW are still putting out junk.

 

[guldam]

How do you know that it's the Union's Fault that Ford and GM are putting out Junk? Maybe management is the problem. Or maybe the designers, or maybe the suppliers. Or maybe they are all to blame.



All I know is that there are a lot of really cool small diesels available in Europe, Japan and the rest of the world that get 50+mpg, and we for some odd reason can't get them. And if we do they'll be loaded down with extra 'features' that raise the price way above what the rest of the world is paying.



I think it boils down to the consumer in the USA. Vote with your wallet, and tell them loudly and often that you don't like what you are being offered.



And for God's sake stop blaming the government, the unions, the liberals and your next door neighbor for everything.



GulDam

My Toyota's were built in Georgetown, Kentucky by American non-union auto workers. I'd buy a horse and buggy before I buy another Furd or GM because the UAW are still putting out junk.

 

[RustyJC]

Vote with your wallet, and tell them loudly and often that you don't like what you are being offered.

Ummmm..... I believe Grizzly did, as did I with my wife's Toyota Highlander Limited and my Acura 3. 2TL-S. The designers might have been responsible for the wiring harness that pinched, shorted out and melted the vehicle wiring (3 times) every time the steering wheel was tilted on our Mercury Sable, but the assemblers were responsible for the tie rod end that had a nut engaged only about halfway with a cotter pin in it and resulted in a horrible shimmy in our Mercury Cyclone GT. I bought Fords for 25 years, but I finally gave up.



Rusty

 

[BIGNASTY]

Why do you want to call some one a name that you don't even know?? It jest goes to show that you was not rased up very good OR you have gone the other way!!

It JEST goes to show that you WAS not rased up very good or you have gone the other way . Im not a rocket scientist or anything but I do know that isn't how your supposed to say that. As for going the other way I have never thought that the GAY BAY was the way for me. I LIKE GIRLS And why would you bring sexual orientation into it unless you question your own Or maybe the slacker thing hit to close to home?

 

[ata]

BIGNASTY, I can't firgure out were you came up with something SEXUAL from AABEN,s post and I don't want to know either. I took it as he meant you went FAR LEFT OR RIGHT WING or LIBERAL or just plain fell off the wall. But anyhow PLEASE THINK before you post. THANKS TOM

 

[RVTRKN]

As far as giving 110%, that's great. But what is even better is giving 95- 100% -so you have something left for your family, and the other important things in life besides work. And no, I'm not talking about slacking. Flame away... .

Ya, next time my employer gives me a raise when I haven't asked for one, I'll give it back and tell him unless he gives everyone else a raise I'll refuse it. Now the 110% I give to the Unions they laugh at it and ask why didn't I give more. There is a personal story in that.





I worked at a retail grocery store in the early 80's for a very short period (quit due to the union) that had great pay and beni's. One night every employee in my department called in sick for a party that was known about, but the supervisors couldn't do anything because of the Unions. In the morning, after I had stocked onto the shelves all of the product that was ordered (and it was a lot) I proudly told the morning manager what I had done and that I did it by myself without ratting out the others. He looked at me and asked why I hadn't brought the stock out from the back (repack) and stocked it as well. When I explained again about everyone calling in sick, he warned me that the next time it better be done.





Moral of that story has two meanings 1) Management treats the workers like crap due to the constant missus of beni's. 2) My fellow brotherhood (like they give a $%!#) left me holding the bag because I honer my agreements.





Oh, by the way, the store that made lots of money that day, you know, the nasty Corporation that paid me, is now out of business.

 

[MickeyMiller]

Well managed companies have pay and benefits commensurate with the economic value of the employee. I put over 20 years in both the power and telecom utilities, both highly unionized. I took a buyout and jumped to the upstart internet industry in the mid ‘90s. I watched telecom lose market share because they lacked the work rule flexibility to counter the ‘flexible', non-union, cable industry. I also saw an internet industry that compensated its employees VERY well.



Unions brought wages and benefits along with work rules that have destroyed the competitiveness of U. S. industry…telecom, steel, transportation, and manufacturing, all are at a disadvantage in the world market because of over regulation and union inflexibility.



BTW, I have withdrawn cards from both the Laborers and Operating Engineer Unions and think TRADE UNIONS are an invaluable resource to this country. Its stupid inflexible work rules that are killing unions, jobs, and American industry.

 

[TCDiesel]

The conduct of these employee's is way off the scale... No effort, time, discussion is necessary,termination is the only option. My guess these employee's have a problem with Drugs and Alcohol, They need to feel the effects of such bad decisions making. If companies / Corporations don't take a STRONG stand against such improper use of Alcohol and drugs they are not helping the employee(s) or care about the services and products they offer. In what universe could you come up with the thought that Employers have the responsibly to rehabilitate its employee(s) "unless they are willing to do so" Maybe these guys feel justify B/C they were doing Drugs/Alcohol on there Time and not the employers dime... . #@$%!#@$%!

 

[lawdog]

Chrysler fires 13, lays off 2 in taped lunch escapade | detnews.com | The Detroit News



This time the UAW got it right... ... ... . Concurred with the firings.



As a LEO I have seen many people protected by Unions that should have been fired, Police and Auto workers. Unions have their place for SOME things. Unions are Greedy, Corporate Execs are Greedy and the Politicians are Greedy, which is why we are in the mess we are in in this country. I work with a bunch of guys that are crying because we gave the city consessions to save 8 guys jobs and help the City which is in financial difficulty. we gave up a 2 1/2% raise, switched to 12 hour shifts to reduce overtime costs and gave back 16 hour of holiday pay. estimated over $650,000. 00 in savings. A bunch of guys *****ed that now THEY are not getting the overtime they were used to and its hurting THEIR retirements. I work my share of OT and I took a big Cut in pay... BUT ... bettwe we all take a small cut then 8 or more take a 100% pay cut..... all the crying equals one thing. GREED and ME ME ME I I I... ..... Ok off the soapbox... ...

 

[CRuth]

I've seen plenty of bad stuff go on in non union companies.



The restrictive work rules everyone complains about are not universal. There are some unions who abuse that but certainly not all.

 

[Motorhead]

I worked at UPS for 30 years and now, for the past 4. 5 years have enjoyed a small pension and $50. 00 a month for F U L L medical, dental, paid prescriptions. BUT, I was a shop steward for about 15 years and I saw MANY times where the managment couldn't fire some SLUG because they (Mgmt) hadn't followed the proper diciplinary steps. I several times as a steward questioned them why they weren't more diligent keeping tabs on certain non producers. They (Mgmt) were usually too busy kickin' it back in the office. As a steward, I saw the unions as a two edged sword..... Some Good about them and some Bad!
We as employees had a "Get out of Jail free" card. In that if any person had a drug or alchohol problem, as long as they went to the employer FIRST, They could ask for help and NOT lose their job or seniority. BUT, If the company suspected you were under the influence, sent you to the company doctor for a "fitness for duty" assessment and you were found dirty, ADIOS!

These Fiat (Chrysler) employees were sticking their YOU KNOW WHAT out pretty far doing what they were doing. They lost some good payin' jobs over a joint and a beer!

 

[Crunch]

When it comes to bad union activity, don't forget the New York City educational system. They've had several cases where teachers and administrators were engaged in misconduct with students, insubordination or incompetence which should have gotten them fired, but the union intervened. Those teachers and administrators were sent to "rubber rooms" where they sat collecting full pay and benefits, sometime for years without any disposition tot their cases, all because the union was protecting them so well it was financially and logistically impractical for the board of education to fire them. The union agreed to do away with the rubber rooms, but they are still in use and the union still protects the people who shouldn't be anywhere near kids or in the educational system. Unions were a good thing when company towns and company stores were the norm, and even now for some industries where the work is inherently dangerous, but professional unions for carpenters, electrician, welders, etc. do far more harm and increase costs to the consumer than if they weren't so powerful. Just look at what has happened to California, New York, Detroit and the Rust Belt over the last 30-40 years and compare it to the non-unionized South, where all those jobs have moved.

 

[retirednak]

dont start the union thing again some get P Oed when you talk about the slackers (they may have been a slacker)

I'm a proud retired union worker IUOE local 302. I worked all over my state of AK from Point Barrow to Adak for 35 yrs. When I first started working construction,it was rare to be on a job and see someone drinking or smoking up. If caught their ***** were run off. After work was another story. If you were a slacker,slow or unqualified,you were down the road and scratching unemployed ***. The last 10 yrs or so,it was common for UA's to be required. If your a holder of a class B or A drivers license its 100%. All most all camps are mostly dry now and if caught,you are banned from ever working for that company or area again. The point I'm trying to make is union workers get bad mouthed right and left,get blamed for everything including the common cold. There for, your held to a higher standard then a non union worker and damn well better act like it. I can't believe that Dodge or the UAW don't have **** tests to stop the abuse. What a man does in his free time should be his own business,when your on the clock,its everybody's bidness.

 

[SNGLESHOT]

This video just made me sick. They have inflated high pay, benefits to die for and they obviously take their good fortune for granted. I am SURE they were well represented by their unions reps when taken to task for this expose video. They are all probably still working high and building defective Chrysler Products. I felt bad when I realized my truck had been built new in Mexico. Now I feel GOOD about that. Sad huh? Unions: Blessing and a Curse. Who said that? They are right.

 

[BIGNASTY]

bignasty, i can't firgure out were you came up with something sexual from aaben,s post and i don't want to know either. I took it as he meant you went far left or right wing or liberal or just plain fell off the wall. But anyhow please think before you post. Thanks tom

gone the other way?