Any other fuel filter besides FG?

[DogramTD]

Is the 7 Micron drop in fuel filter from fleetguard the best we can get, or is there another one out there? I am running the AD but am reinstalling the factory filter canister; in the event my AD ever fails, it would be a simple connection of 1 wire and the original supply line to the canister to get me back on the road. Plus... . fuel can never be too clean!

 

[The patriot]

I dont know much about the newer trucks, but I'd bet if you googled your FG part # you'd find several dozen different part #'s that will fit and work.

Some made by fg and re branded some of so-so quality.

 

[AH64ID]

The Baldwin PF7977 is the best, 5um, for the OE canister.

https://www.turbodieselregister.com...nsmission/223641-common-fuel-filter-data.html

 

[Blue Ox1]

I think Baldwin makes a 5 micron drop in ,i thought it didn't have the water separator rating of the fleetguard . I know Grainger sells them around here for around 15. 00

 

[DogramTD]

Thanks, thats what I was looking for. As far as water separation, the AD (although a point of contention amongst some) does the separation, so whatever it misses, I am sure the Baldwin is good enough to catch.

 

[DogramTD]

That was great info AH64ID, I did a search before I posted but I didnt see that!

 

[DogramTD]

Found a great website for donaldson/Baldwin/Racor filters; B-Line Filter. Cheapest I found also has a great cross reference catalog application, just type in the known Part# and it will give you the replacement.

 

[AH64ID]

Yes the new AD f/w sep is decent, but still rated lower than the stock filter.

 

[TCDiesel]

All the Donaldson,Baldwin,Fleetgaurd are F/W separators they do not encapsulate ,which are proved to be inadequate in most cases. Don't be fooled by these elaborate systems ,if the filter does NOT encapsulate and plug,You will just push right through them. Heck Zinga solve all of Bio-clean system injector water problem by just spinning on the filter to there fill tanks. If you want 100% protection the only system that will promise you this is 1 dictated to filtration and not related in any way to the lift or injection system. This means installing auxiliary tank or installing the system on factory tank with a NON internal combustion rating. This filter will plug and NOT allow any contamination to pass it, thats why it cannot get the ratings for direct internal combustion certification. I know all this is hard to swallow,its just the facts.

Alright I will dump 1 gallon of water with 10 gallons of fuel in my auxiliary tank if anyone will match this (with their system) and run until dry, I will promise you My zinga filter will catch about 30oz of the water before it plugs and does not allow and liquid to pass through,Now if your system does not stop and plug... ... its going to be YOUR Judgment to continue to use use it.

 

[DogramTD]

Never heard of Zinga, but interesting information. I will research it. Is this what you use in your canister or just a product you sell? I imagine there is no application for drop in if they are not rated/approved for internal combustion engines; something you must install in line like a GDP?

 

[SRehberg]

Will the stock lift pump work with the Baldwin 5 micron filter?

 

[TCDiesel]

Will the stock lift pump work with the Baldwin 5 micron filter?

Yes... ... ...

 

[TCDiesel]

Never heard of Zinga, but interesting information. I will research it. Is this what you use in your canister or just a product you sell? I imagine there is no application for drop in if they are not rated/approved for internal combustion engines; something you must install in line like a GDP?

Zinga is a filter Manufacture... . There Product are more in-line with commercial use, but are top notch and use heavily in the commercial world. . Zinga Industries, Inc.

 

[AH64ID]

Absorbent filters are the best at removing water like you said, but are impractical in our applications. The zinga filters look like great filters, thou I find it interesting that their 3um filter is really a 23um filter when you open the spec sheet. They are the kind of filter I would use on a bulk storage tank, not on the truck tank.

In all honesty the J1488 and J1839 ratings for water separation are just fine. If they didn't work then there would be LOTS of rigs with water damage. Granted today's fuel is much drier than ever before, there still would be issues if the ratings used didn't work.

 

[DogramTD]

To be honest, I have never drained a drop of water out of either my stock or AD W/F separator in the 5 years I have owned my truck. I guess untill I do, it's not a real big concern to me as much as filtering down the particles.

 

[TCDiesel]

The Problems are the ratings and the system which they are founded on,I am not moved or entice by such deception... . I deal with water problems weekly. . No one is out spoken Like My Maybe its B/C the $.



Your right about Zinga and other manufactures, its more commercial,but it far superior to have a dictated system either auxiliary tank filtering or separate from direct lift or feed.



I have challenged them ALL and NONE have step up:-laf:-laf



I like your setup,but thats allot of work that can be accomplish with 1 correct filtering system.



GTG.

 

[TCDiesel]

To be honest, I have never drained a drop of water out of either my stock or AD W/F separator in the 5 years I have owned my truck. I guess untill I do, it's not a real big concern to me as much as filtering down the particles.

Awesome,but if you pump a water pocket form some tank (Retail ,Auxiliary) its gonna be $$$$, the stock system is fine for Particles,your are 50 times more like to cause more damage By water.

 

[AH64ID]

I like your setup,but thats allot of work that can be accomplish with 1 correct filtering system.

GTG.

It would still take the same number of filters. The best zinga absorbing is 23um, so a 2um is still needed, and I like the OEM there as its cheap, easy to change, and an additional filter. I have no doubts with the effectiveness of my system, and don't feel the need to run an absorbing filter that may plug on me when I don't want it to. I'd much rather get a WIF light and go from there (of which I have 2 sensors).

 

[TCDiesel]

How did you come up with that figure?, The AE-03AZL will plug Period with 7. 2 or more of water 100%,And Get 50% 5mics on the 1st pass,95% of 21mics,98% 23mics. Check the pressure drop http://zinga.com/zImages/SPINON_AQUAZORB.pdf ,Try and find that on any J-rating. Maybe You can point me to some chart that actually tells the Pressure Vs Volume Vs loss on any J-ratings. . Yep let see Hmmmmmmmm. . We got 5% of 2mics @ 2psi -1GPM, and 10% of 5mics and 20% 10mics so let just use the 2mic label. . What do you think the rating for this filter will be at 10psi & 2GPM?



Zinga ZAE-03 W/O Water, will get 50% of 2mics, 95% 3mics, 98% 4mics all on the 1st Pass,this filter was so good we had to stop using it ,it was plugging weeky,semi monthly,on use GPD.

 

[DogramTD]

Zinga ZAE-03 W/O Water, will get 50% of 2mics, 95% 3mics, 98% 4mics all on the 1st Pass,this filter was so good we had to stop using it ,it was plugging weeky,semi monthly,on use GPD. [/QUOTE]



So it sounds like a moot point if you cant use it. We would probably spend more in replacement filters weekly than if we continued with our setups and chanced something getting through... Gotta weigh the cost to benefit here.



Sounds like what you are saying is IF we had an Aux tank, this would be a good set up.