Loves truck stops - Biodiesel

[HBarlow]

That's fine for your truck but you are failing to mention to others who might be influenced to do the same thing that you have removed the dpf and egr valve from your truck.

 

[CUMMINZ]

I purchased 3 gallons of kero this weekend. When I poured it out it was died red. It suprised me.

 

[Bob4x4]

He has a Farm tag on his truck which gives him an alibi.

If it runs on the hyway it doesn't matter

What tags are on it

 

[Bob4x4]

Well let me reword this State of Ca I believe run's a b20 mix and I am best friends with 2 of the top Mech. He has showed me there truck's that run on what ever mix the state buy's and they have No more filtering then I do and they don't have any problem's So maybe I am thinking of B5 ? possibly but I remember him telling me it was b20

Many fleets have modified vehicles and different

Maintenance than consumers

 

[KLauber]

If it runs on the hyway it doesn't matter

What tags are on it

SC Farm tag allows you to purchase non-taxed fuel for your off-road vehicle including your farm truck which you had to drive on the road to get it.

 

[Shelby Griggs]

If you drive on public roads in SC with non taxed fuel do you have to keep track of the amount consumed on the public roads (or least guess at it) and then pay taxes quarterly or yearly to the state? That is the way it is in most states for dual use, the states and counties still want their revenue even if it is non taxed fuel, in Oregon you have to keep track of it and report the part that is taxable, specific forms for doing this.



SHG

 

[HBarlow]

I know nothing about SCDOT rules but I would be willing to bet that SC does not allow farm plates for commercial highway use. I would also bet that unless a SC resident is reporting and paying income taxes on farm income he is not allowed to use farm plates.

 

[KLauber]

I know nothing about SCDOT rules but I would be willing to bet that SC does not allow farm plates for commercial highway use. I would also bet that unless a SC resident is reporting and paying income taxes on farm income he is not allowed to use farm plates.

U are probably right about the DOT. You can live on a farm and not have any farm income. Work is optional in this country. We have a friend who has 75 acres, 4 horses and has farm tags on her vehicles. She teaches public school. The service manager probably lives on a farm or has horses, etc. I'll ask him next time I'm at the dealer.

 

[KLauber]

If you drive on public roads in SC with non taxed fuel do you have to keep track of the amount consumed on the public roads (or least guess at it) and then pay taxes quarterly or yearly to the state? That is the way it is in most states for dual use, the states and counties still want their revenue even if it is non taxed fuel, in Oregon you have to keep track of it and report the part that is taxable, specific forms for doing this.



SHG

In theory thats how it works. Same for reporting your internet purchases and submitting the taxes... ..... uh huh.

 

[BIGNASTY]

If it runs on the hyway it doesn't matter

What tags are on it

Maybe some day he'll get caught maybe not. Some just NEVER learn.

 

[BIGNASTY]

I know nothing about SCDOT rules but I would be willing to bet that SC does not allow farm plates for commercial highway use. I would also bet that unless a SC resident is reporting and paying income taxes on farm income he is not allowed to use farm plates.

Your sort of kinda correct MT has a Farm truck tag. I have one for the Inter trash inoal that we have. It DOESNT ALLOW ME TO RUN REDDYE DIESEL ON ROAD but it does make me exempt on the retro afterburner exhaust if it is ever law in this state (so far) dont know about any other state, Also truck cant be used for commerical gain (cant make money hauling I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER for anyone but the farm)

 

[Mark31]

In SC, if you get caught with red fuel in a truck of any kind, I guar-on-tee (ala Justin Wilson), you will have a bad, bad day!! Mark

 

[RustyJC]

SC Farm tag allows you to purchase non-taxed fuel for your off-road vehicle including your farm truck which you had to drive on the road to get it.

In Texas, the red fuel police will check trucks in the parking lot at farm auctions, livestock auctions, etc. Farm tags or not, if it's running red fuel on public roads, it's gonna cost someone big time.



Rusty

 

[BIGNASTY]

Have seen it in MT that the truck has a AUX fueler tank in the bed and has RD diesel in it If it's connected in ANY WAY to the truck fuel supply IT'S A TICKET

 

[Bill Stockard]

In Texas, the red fuel police will check trucks in the parking lot at farm auctions, livestock auctions, etc. Farm tags or not, if it's running red fuel on public roads, it's gonna cost someone big time.



Rusty

Yep, that's true. I buy red off road diesel and must have a permit from the State to buy it at the bulk plant. On the permit application I had to state I owned an on highway diesel powered truck. I have not and will not ever run red fuel in my truck. It ain't worth the risk!!



Bill

 

[BIGNASTY]

Bill you have to go to a bulk plant to get your R D diesel ? Here any that sell RD have it at the pump some drive their Tractor in and fill it up. I wonder if that would be a ticket they drive on the road to get there??

 

[HBarlow]

I use off road diesel in my Kubota tractor for mowing, driveway grading, dirt moving, and other chores around my place also. I had to go through the same procedure described by Bill above. This requirement and the documentation filed with the state would make a very clear case for prosecution if I was ever checked coming out of the local farmer's co-op with a container of dyed diesel and found to be using it for on road use. I would not burn even one gallon of red dyed diesel fuel in my truck.

Use of off road fuel in a privately owned commercial truck suggests a serious lack of personal ethics to me and a serious risk of heavy penalty.

 

[Alan Reagan]

In Georgia the fine for ORD is $1000-$10,000 and up to a year in prison. Here's the law:



The public is hereby reminded that any person who violates O. C. G. A. § 48-9-17 “shall be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000. 00 nor more than $10,000. 00 or by imprisonment for not less than 30 days nor more than 12 months, or both. ”



I was checked at a farm co-op a while back. I stopped in to pick up some herbicide and when I came out, there was a DOT guy with my fuel door open and cap off checking for the red dye. He had seen me at the OR pump at a gas station filling up my cans for my tractor. He said he thought I was filling up the truck when he went by and followed me to the co-op to see if I had been using it in the truck.

 

[Bill Stockard]

Bill you have to go to a bulk plant to get your R D diesel ? Here any that sell RD have it at the pump some drive their Tractor in and fill it up. I wonder if that would be a ticket they drive on the road to get there??

Yes, I must go to the local wholesaler's bulk plant to buy red diesel since none of the local stations that have diesel pumps sell red diesel. There is a regular size pump, hose, and nozzle at the bulk plant where I buy my diesel for use by owners of tractors and other off road equipment to easily fill their tanks and for filling smaller containers. I fill my tank at a larger pump, larger hose, and much larger nozzle that won't fit into a regular fuel tank opening. It pumps much faster and takes much less time to fill large tanks.



No, tractors driven to the bulk plant don't pay the state road use tax. It's obvious tractors are off road vehicles.



Bill

 

[HBarlow]

Alan,

That's a good report, points out how easy it would be to get caught in such a cheap and dumb violation of the law as fuel tax avoidance as well as the severe penalty.

I have a 75 gallon Transfer Flow aux fuel tank mounted behind the headache rack on the C&M flatbed on my truck. It is highly visible and probably very suspicious to a state trooper or state tax collection inspector out on the roads looking for fuel tax/red fuel violators.

My tractor is a Kubota with a small three cylinder fuel sipping diesel and my usage is not sufficient to have a large fuel tank at my place so five gallon fuel containers are most practical for my needs. I never put a drop of red fuel in the TF tank but I suspect I could easily attract the attention of someone looking for fuel tax cheats when I pull my truck with that TF tank down to the back of the local farm co-op alongside the off road fuel tank pump to refill a five gallon container or two.