Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) High idle from cruise control

[mwilson]

Hannick High Idle System

OK, I am paying attention to this, have been trying to wire it in my head on the way to work if you can get constant results.

So far I have a relay involved, park brake light circuit to activate or switch the relay and an idle increase/decrease switch from an FL70.

That would do it all with one switch in the dash and be active if the cruise was on and the park brake applied.



Agree?????



Mike.

 

[Mhannink]

Really cool findings. Have you thought about a diode between the computer and where you tap into the circuit to protect the system and prevent the cruise control from seeing the external power input?

I have thought of a diode. Im not to worried though as there is a resistor in series that will step the voltage down at least. So I am not sure yet definitely a good idea though.

OK, I am paying attention to this, have been trying to wire it in my head on the way to work if you can get constant results.

So far I have a relay involved, park brake light circuit to activate or switch the relay and an idle increase/decrease switch from an FL70.

That would do it all with one switch in the dash and be active if the cruise was on and the park brake applied.



Agree?????



Mike.

Maybe im not reading it right (long week, tired and stressed) but the problem I see is holding ground on the vent solenoid.



As for concinstancy its reliable with the servo powered up externally, with a little practice its pretty to set the idle on or near the desired spot. I do think though a device like originally talked about would be nice but not needed.



What I am considering is putting a kit together for those who would like an easy nearly plug and play kit. Mike maybe you can help me on this, I need a plug and socket like the one on the cruise. Then I can build a harness with a diode for sure, include the "one shot" device, switches and instructions. Would anyone be interested in something like that? No splicing or tapping wires. Any interest?

 

[mwilson]

I have thought of a diode. Im not to worried though as there is a resistor in series that will step the voltage down at least. So I am not sure yet definitely a good idea though.





Maybe im not reading it right (long week, tired and stressed) but the problem I see is holding ground on the vent solenoid.



As for concinstancy its reliable with the servo powered up externally, with a little practice its pretty to set the idle on or near the desired spot. I do think though a device like originally talked about would be nice but not needed.



What I am considering is putting a kit together for those who would like an easy nearly plug and play kit. Mike maybe you can help me on this, I need a plug and socket like the one on the cruise. Then I can build a harness with a diode for sure, include the "one shot" device, switches and instructions. Would anyone be interested in something like that? No splicing or tapping wires. Any interest?

See if this matches. .





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Mopar Package #

05013979AA



VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL SERVO - BLACK 4 WAY



CAV CIRCUIT FUNCTION

1

V36 20TN/RD

SPEED CONTROL VACUUM SOLENOID CONTROL



2

V35 20LG/RD

SPEED CONTROL VENT SOLENOID CONTROL



3

V30 20DB/RD

SPEED CONTROL ON/OFF SWITCH OUTPUT



4

Z1 20BK

GROUND





This is a servo connector kit for a '99 but I think it's the same.



Mike.

 

[Mhannink]

that might work but i dont know, any pics available?



the hardest part to find is the female connector like that on the cc servo. thats what i need to make a kit. the one on my truck is black with a red locking cross tab. i have seen this on nearly all the freightliners i have worked on which is why i am asking you mike if you could find a part number that would work.



what i am needing is the male and female connectors like that on the cc servo, i need the associated pins, and the tools to assemble it. the rest i can get pretty easy i think.



this way, if anyone is interested i can build a kit that anyone one could install with minimal work. i can build the harnes that plugs into the servo with diode built in, relay's, switches, "one shot device", fuses, and instructions. that way all one needs to do is plug in the harness, mount the switches, and do the simple parts of the wiring.



i was hoping more people would read all of this and have some input as to whether or not they would buy a kit like this.

 

[mwilson]

that might work but i dont know, any pics available?



the hardest part to find is the female connector like that on the cc servo. thats what i need to make a kit. the one on my truck is black with a red locking cross tab. i have seen this on nearly all the freightliners i have worked on which is why i am asking you mike if you could find a part number that would work.



what i am needing is the male and female connectors like that on the cc servo, i need the associated pins, and the tools to assemble it. the rest i can get pretty easy i think.



this way, if anyone is interested i can build a kit that anyone one could install with minimal work. i can build the harnes that plugs into the servo with diode built in, relay's, switches, "one shot device", fuses, and instructions. that way all one needs to do is plug in the harness, mount the switches, and do the simple parts of the wiring.



i was hoping more people would read all of this and have some input as to whether or not they would buy a kit like this.

Bear with me, I have a very busy week.



I do have a spare servo at home that is on a battery tray I picked up at a salvage yard.

I will bring it to work and see if it takes Delphi connectors.



I can figure this out, just need a little time.



Mike.

 

[Mhannink]

No rush mike whenever you can is fine. Delphi sounds right to me I could not remember the name of them but I think that's it.

 

[Bob Chociej]

i would buy a kit,

 

[Mhannink]

at the risk of getting in trouble here, what would be a price range you would be willing to pay. if i can get moving forward on this one consideration will be cost. i dont know yet what it will cost to make, but if i know a price that people are willing to pay it will give me a range to work in for my costs.

 

[Bob Chociej]

let me know what you think it would run. i dont have a clue what it would cost

 

[Mhannink]

Im working on figuring cost, been busy and have not had time. I thinking if I can selling it for around 150 dollars. That seems reasonable to me but maybe others will think its high. That's why im asking what people would pay for a complete kit. If the general opinion is say 75 and if I can't get my cost below say 50 then its probably not worth doing. If cost is 50 to 75 and people think 150 is reasonable than its worth it.

 

[mhelburg]

You can put me on the list of potential customers for sure.

 

[Bob Chociej]

sounds good to me ,let me know.

 

[mwilson]

Bear with me, I have a very busy week.



I do have a spare servo at home that is on a battery tray I picked up at a salvage yard.

I will bring it to work and see if it takes Delphi connectors.



I can figure this out, just need a little time.



Mike.

OK, I am planning to come to work tomorrow as the wife is volunteering for a "Feed anyone that comes through the door for free" event at a local resturant so I can have total peace and quiet here in this empty building to get some projects done.

We have our Thanksgiving meal on Saturday anyway.

I will bring my spare servo with me and dig out the Delphi book, see what I can do when I take lunch break.

I think it is the same connector that Freightliner uses on the rectangular tail lights.

Will let you know Friday what I figure out.



Mike.

 

[Bob Chociej]

any word on the kits ????????????