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Can't see or smell it



Not exactly true! When you witness a phase to ground or phase to phase situation, you can definately see "The Dragon" as some call it. It is actually quite impressive to see the damage that can occur from these mishaps. I've never smelt actual electricity, but when things go bad, I've smelt the aftermath.
 
EXACTLY!!!



It is a smell that is burned into your brain forever!!! Doesn't matter which living creature suffers the same fate... YOU KNOW INSTANTLY when it is a human!!!



Hope I never recognize the "smell" again in my lifetime!!
 
These switches are in an electrical room at work. Not sure if they're in service or not. What do the warnings mean? Can't turn switch?



I perform power distribution analysis every day as an EE for an industrial manufacturing company - my work includes estimating Arc Flash Hazard as part of this process.



Simply put, arc flash hazard is the "other" electrical hazard. Traditionally, electrical work has involved shock hazard - touching energized conductors, with resultant current through the body from impedance/resistance of skin/tissue across the system voltage (or from voltage to ground). Arcing faults also will emit incident heat energy that will burn electricians. The heat of an arc is generated by the ionized plasma that conducts the fault current while the fault is arcing. This plasma is about 36,000 degrees F - hotter than any thing on earth; about 4 times the temperature of the sun.



The heat energy can be estimated/calculated in units of calories per centimeter-squared - sort of a "heat flux" value, if you will. This incident heat energy is estimated at a typical working distance - usually 18 inches for 480V equipment.



The magnitude of the incident heat energy depends on the available short-circuit fault current, plus the arcing time before the upstream protective device clears the fault (circuit breaker or fuse). A value of 1. 2 cal/cm^2 is considered the amount that would cause onset of a second-degree burn - just past the level of a "just curable" burn. Levels of hazard can be different for every bus in the system, since fault duty changes at every point and different protective devices are called upon to clear the faults.



Arc flash hazard values are classified into Hazard Risk Categories from 0 - 4. (HRC zero through HRC4) HRC0 is any hazard that's less than 1. 2 cal/cm^2. The upper end of HRC4 is 40 cal/cm^2. Anything more than that is considered "extreme danger" and we recommend that no energized work be performed on equipment with this hazard level.



PPE (personal protective equipment) garments can be used for protection against heat energy while performing energized electrical work. Non-flammable, natural fiber clothing is used to "insulate/isolate" workers from the incident heat energy. PPE clothing is rated for a certain amount of heat energy, so that skin inside the garment would then be protected to a level of energy no more than the 1. 2cal/cm^2 level - thus resulting in maximum of the just curable burn. Layering of garments adds to the level of protection, just like layering of outdoor wear in cold weather.



Since the hazard label in your photo shows an arc flash hazard energy level of 73 cal/cm^2, this equipment is considered in the Extreme Danger category, and should not be worked while energized. The 220-inch distance shown on the label would be the boundary distance from the equipment where energy from the arcing fault would be no more than the 1. 2 cal/cm^2 value.



Arcing faults will also include a pressure/blast wave. This is caused by the rapid expansion of conductors as the heat causes copper to vaporize - copper expands about 67,000 times normal while vaporizing. At this time, we can't estimate this hazard, but it can crush you and will certainly send you flying across the room. (maybe this is a good thing - gets you away from the heat) There's also the deafening sound wave that accompanies the blast wave to worry about too.



Hope this makes some sense; I wrote it hurriedly, and there's a lot more details that go with it. NFPA/IEEE, and other organizations are still hard at work - there are more tests planned in the future to get a better handle on the phenomenon and give us better tools to perform safe electrical work.



Best,

John
 
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JSellers, Thank You for the nice write-up.



What could have happened here: :confused:



2:00 arc flash interior substation racking breaker refineria Barranca Ecopetrol - YouTube



Is this Halon gas?:



A bit of a bang - YouTube



Both of those incidents are examples of arc flash - as most faults exhibit arcing. A fault that doesn't arc is termed a BOLTED fault, and this condition is used for calculations of available short-circuit fault duty. (The maximum current that would flow under fault conditions - this is limited by system impedance at the fault location. )



The incident at Palo Verde Water Reclamation Facility is further explained in the following video - 7 min. length; but you don't have to watch all to see that the electrician was uninjured because he used proper PPE (non-flammable clothing/shield/gloves/etc. ) to protect himself from the incident heat energy.





Arc Flash Incident Palo Verde Arizonia 2008 - YouTube



That fault was triggered by some malfunction of a power circuit breaker. The electricians were racking the breaker into the bus stabs in preparation for closing it to energize downstream equipment. Apparently the breaker failed when they closed it, and resulted in the arcing fault. The fireball looks pretty immense, but the hazard isn't one of the largest that electricians face while switching/working energized equipment. You can tell from the level of clothing they're wearing - the long sleeves and pants aren't suitable for incident energy levels approaching extreme danger levels. The higher "workable" hazard categories will require the full-quilted jump suits and hoods as shown later in the linked video.





Your second link appears to show a failed transformer - looks like a dry type from the enclosure. This doesn't look like a very high level of flash hazard, but it did set off some type of fire suppression system. This fault is cleared pretty quickly by an upstream protective device, evidenced by the limited flash and just a bit of ionized vapor smoke wafting out of the enclosure vents.



The gas could be halon, but I'd guess it's more likely to be CO2. Halon isn't used anymore (if I remember correctly) because of the hazard to personnel in closed spaces. In most systems I'm involved with, we don't use automatic systems in electrical rooms at all anymore - just portable CO2 extinguishers. You certainly don't want to wet sprinkle any energized electrical equipment, and both types of gases can be hazardous to humans.



Thanks for the links, Hemi.



Best,

John
 
I brought this to work....

I perform power distribution analysis every day as an EE for an industrial manufacturing company - my work includes estimating Arc Flash Hazard as part of this process.



Simply put, arc flash hazard is the "other" electrical hazard. Traditionally, electrical work has involved shock hazard - touching energized conductors, with resultant current through the body from impedance/resistance of skin/tissue across the system voltage (or from voltage to ground). Arcing faults also will emit incident heat energy that will burn electricians. The heat of an arc is generated by the ionized plasma that conducts the fault current while the fault is arcing. This plasma is about 36,000 degrees F - hotter than any thing on earth; about 4 times the temperature of the sun.



The heat energy can be estimated/calculated in units of calories per centimeter-squared - sort of a "heat flux" value, if you will. This incident heat energy is estimated at a typical working distance - usually 18 inches for 480V equipment.



The magnitude of the incident heat energy depends on the available short-circuit fault current, plus the arcing time before the upstream protective device clears the fault (circuit breaker or fuse). A value of 1. 2 cal/cm^2 is considered the amount that would cause onset of a second-degree burn - just past the level of a "just curable" burn. Levels of hazard can be different for every bus in the system, since fault duty changes at every point and different protective devices are called upon to clear the faults.



Arc flash hazard values are classified into Hazard Risk Categories from 0 - 4. (HRC zero through HRC4) HRC0 is any hazard that's less than 1. 2 cal/cm^2. The upper end of HRC4 is 40 cal/cm^2. Anything more than that is considered "extreme danger" and we recommend that no energized work be performed on equipment with this hazard level.



PPE (personal protective equipment) garments can be used for protection against heat energy while performing energized electrical work. Non-flammable, natural fiber clothing is used to "insulate/isolate" workers from the incident heat energy. PPE clothing is rated for a certain amount of heat energy, so that skin inside the garment would then be protected to a level of energy no more than the 1. 2cal/cm^2 level - thus resulting in maximum of the just curable burn. Layering of garments adds to the level of protection, just like layering of outdoor wear in cold weather.



Since the hazard label in your photo shows an arc flash hazard energy level of 73 cal/cm^2, this equipment is considered in the Extreme Danger category, and should not be worked while energized. The 220-inch distance shown on the label would be the boundary distance from the equipment where energy from the arcing fault would be no more than the 1. 2 cal/cm^2 value.



Arcing faults will also include a pressure/blast wave. This is caused by the rapid expansion of conductors as the heat causes copper to vaporize - copper expands about 67,000 times normal while vaporizing. At this time, we can't estimate this hazard, but it can crush you and will certainly send you flying across the room. (maybe this is a good thing - gets you away from the heat) There's also the deafening sound wave that accompanies the blast wave to worry about too.



Hope this makes some sense; I wrote it hurriedly, and there's a lot more details that go with it. NFPA/IEEE, and other organizations are still hard at work - there are more tests planned in the future to get a better handle on the phenomenon and give us better tools to perform safe electrical work.



Best,

John



Printed Showed & showed the electricians. We have 2 apprentices. One remarked "John certainly knows his Stuff"



Our E2 makes $37. 50 an hour... . with all the OT he wants.



Is this on par w/ the rest of the country?



Thank You for clearing-up the ach flash incident. We thought the operator was dead. When I have time I will post the vid to his Facebook page w/ the synopsis.
 
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