Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Gun values

[AMink]

My older neighbor is moving and I have the opportunity to gain to possession of several guns. In the batch are a Weatherby Mark V in . 300 Weatherby Mag, a pre-64 Model 70 in . 243, and a pre-64 Model 94 in . 30-30.



All are in nice condition though the 70 has a stock decision effort that isn't too attractive. It's an attempt at a white diamond below the action. The 94 looks dang near brand new. Do any of you collectors/aficionados have any insight on these?



Looking around the internet gets pretty confusing. I don't want to lowball but I don't want to pay too much either.

 

[jgillott]

Any Idea what year the Weatherby is? Walnut or synthetic stock?

I purchased one new in . 300 Weatherby Mag in 2001 and I believe that it was around $1000 or so with the synthetic stock. Back then, well used ones were going in the $500-$750 range.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Weatherby Brass is big bucks and if not loaded right wont last long at all. Factory Fodder is out of sight on price

 

[AMink]

Any Idea what year the Weatherby is? Walnut or synthetic stock?

I purchased one new in . 300 Weatherby Mag in 2001 and I believe that it was around $1000 or so with the synthetic stock. Back then, well used ones were going in the $500-$750 range.

It's wood and I looked at it again and the stock has been lengthened. It's a very nice job, but not original. As his wife says, my friend has ape arms. I can't even get my cheek on the bulge of the Monte Carlo swell! It appears to have been manufactured in 1960 by the serial number.

 

[AMink]

Weatherby Brass is big bucks and if not loaded right wont last long at all. Factory Fodder is out of sight on price

I've seen that. It is pricey. The boxes of ammo he has for it are original Weatherby ammo and the price tag is... . wait for it... . $12. 95! He has about 5 or 6 boxes of fired and unfired bullets. I should be able to reload those for quite some time.

 

[HHhuntitall]

I'll have to look at the Weatherby, but the Winchester Pre-64 Mod 70 is pretty high. The stock takes a bit off, and I don't know if it's a heavy barreled varminter, but if it's pretty clean metal, then $750-1200 is the range. I'm pretty high on the old Pre-64s..... I might know where a few are... closeby... The short action rounds are usually higher in price, just because they're not as common. The . 243 is probably the most common short round. If you look at the back side of the bolt, opposite the extractor claw, there is a blued metal stop to keep the action from coming all the way back..... I'd think $850-950 would be pretty fair, IMO.



The 94 is a different story... . Winchester halted production with the FN buyout, and that has really spiked prices the last few years. IF it's as clean as you say it is, it's gonna be up anywhere from $500-1500, depending on the wide and varied production dates. For example: if it says . 30WCF on the barrel, it's worth more, but if it says 30-30Win, then it's less, and then look at the model number. If it says 1894 it's older, worth more, but if it says Model 94, then it's manufactured 1940-1964, without saddle ring... . Without it here in front of me, I can't really say for certain... . I don't think you could get hurt at the $500 range, but that may be underpriced for what it is.....

 

[HHhuntitall]

Ok, my book tells me the Mark V was initially started in Southgate circa 1958-59..... but there have been a number of actions used, mostly the Mauser type in the older rifles. JP Sauer made a large number of them, as well. The earlier models will bring a premium, my notes say, usually 20-30% for the Mauser actions, and 15-25% for the German manufactured JP Sauer. The current rating looks somewhere from $975 at the 80% range to $1750 for current production..... From what I've seen locally, the current production rifles will move around $1000, with scopes and some ammo with them... . this goes up this time of year, but that's expected. Mint rifles go a little higher, as collectors will purchase them for their own. As the stock has been modified, that hurts the value a lot, so the rifle would probably fall in the $750-950 range... . Production date and action used is everything, here. An early model Gustav Mauser action would bring a premium, upwards of $1500, while a later Japan made model will be lower, as stated above.

 

[KBurgoyne]

if the weatherby was manufactured pre 1972 in germany it may have a barrel with a 1-12 twist that will not stabilize bullets above 180 grain according to my nosler manual. fair value for the rifle most likely wont justify the performance that you get from it. a new vangaurd is sub minute accurate from the box for less money if youre dying for a weatherby. personally i think weatherby charges way too much just to have weatherby written on the side of the rifle, and on the back of the brass.