Snow and Ice retread

[BIGNASTY]

Working on snow and ice retread for 4 hoove drive units will test as soon as conditions allow

 

[JR]

Thats what i call a studded tread! How long will you put those on for, BIG?

 

[BIGNASTY]

Just for the winter months AND DEFFENATILY AN OFF ROAD ITEM!!!!!!! they hit pavement with these it would be like ICE SKATING MULES :-laf



I plow the driveway and around the house and barn and feed FIL's/BIL's cattle in pastures with mule power in the winter this is what a buddy form another website that came out from KY uses for his mules , He sent pics to me and instructions DO NOT USE ON HIGHWAY. The mules get the winter months off from packing and enjoy a good workout pulling the plow and hay sled/wagon around to feed the others

 

[Axtell3]

When we used to pull logs with our belgians we had some similar cleated shoes. They were more of a flat cleat than those. Yours look like they'd wear more evenly.

 

[BIGNASTY]

When we used to pull logs with our belgians we had some similar cleated shoes. They were more of a flat cleat than those. Yours look like they'd wear more evenly.

Axtell

Thanks for the reply, when the people that sent me the pictures and the little spikes so I could make my own told me about them I wasnt sure that I wanted to put that much pressure on 4 points of the shoe. I guess that they would sink into the ground to the point that the shoe would make contact and the spikes would make a less slip point of traction. Did your Belgians ( VERY NICE ANIMALS BY THE WAY) Have ANY problems with them?



BIG

 

[Axtell3]

Well they are not good on paved roads. Pretty rough on gravel roads too. We had to check them for wear quite a bit, as I said ours were more like bars or cleats. They could catch. I'd think the round points would be better, in that they wouldn't tend to skate sideways. The ones we used were good on the slippery stuff though. I just remember having to change them more than the summer treads.

By the way I enjoyed the telling of your Elk hunt. Iv'e taken a few with a rifle, and look forward to a bow hunt in the next couple years.

Problems with the horses? Made my hips hurt to ride them.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Well they are not good on paved roads. Pretty rough on gravel roads too. We had to check them for wear quite a bit, as I said ours were more like bars or cleats. They could catch. I'd think the round points would be better, in that they wouldn't tend to skate sideways. The ones we used were good on the slippery stuff though. I just remember having to change them more than the summer treads.

By the way I enjoyed the telling of your Elk hunt. Iv'e taken a few with a rifle, and look forward to a bow hunt in the next couple years.

Problems with the horses? Made my hips hurt to ride them.

Again thanks for the info im unsure that I will use them on the gang. I have to contact their Vet our Niece to see what she thinks. I DONT PLAN ANY ON HIGHWAY trips if I do use them. Its mainly for the winter on our driveway and around the pastures. ELK hunting is a religion around here I use a rifle or have used some high powered handguns a few times. I dont like bows but dont condemn anyone that does its just me I dont think they kill fast enough and we owe them a quick clean kill. FIL/BIL are big time bow Elk hunters. Hurting hips? Never had that problem, Should say YET!!! saddle adjustments make a BIG difference is some cases.



BIG

 

[Axtell3]

May be the adjustment would work, it was alot of animal is all I'm sayin'
The deer Iv'e taken with a bow have expired quickly, I'd assume a double lung would do the job same way on the wapiti.
They are magnificent creatures for sure.
I met my elk guru a few years back, and of course he's the one who hooked me on the cummins too.
Dave definitely has the Elk religion going on. We have a good time every November hunting a ranch he chased cows on a few times. Gives me the authentic experience, sleeping in a sheep wagon, talking with the ranchers one of whom is quite the saddle maker. He's displayed and sold a few through the big show in Elko. We pretty much have our own mountain to pick apart, cow hunt. I get to look at the bulls, and that's enough for me. I bring home a lot of pictures, meat and stories.

 

[BIGNASTY]

BULL or COW Meat is Meat I've never ate cow elk so im going to save some to see if indeed there is a difference some of the Bulls get all kinds of nasty smells going on during the season. Adrenaline is the reason for a quick kill to me, have seen some ya-hoo that cant shoot gut shoot one and the Elk ran for quite a ways before the same ya-hoo could put another pill in it and then gave a roast in camp for dinner and it tasted different to me. FIL/BIL 's thinking is that the arrow's of today are so sharp that the game doesn't even know that it was hit or if it was a bite of some kind something to talk about around a campfire for sure.

Im glad my main mules wont let me ride them they are draft mules and a WIDE LOAD compared to the riding ones

 

[Axtell3]

Yeah Iv'e sat in some of those nasty smelling beds. Definitely stanky.
I guess it comes down to discipline for the hunter. Some have it, some should stick to watching videos. The deer I've shot generally run a short way, look around, then either lay down or keel over from the standing position. I'd guess the adrenaline is running on both ends of the arrow, so I hope when my time comes I'll do whats right, and only take the perfect shot.
The belgians don't mind yah riding them but man are they wide. One we crossed with a quarter horse we picked up with 4 brands. That tells yah how well liked the mare was.
Finally got rid of her after she rubbed Dad off on an Apple tree, he got back on then she rolled on him.
He had the presence of mind to call for the market truck rather than shoot her on the spot. Her foals were much more pleasant.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Daisy my riding mule is just a horse with long ears she knows no difference she's just my speed, All ahead WALK!!! im to old to get pitched off anymore I dont heal like I use to and the ones that did heal im really feeling lately. I dont know how old your are but I hope someday YOU WONT KNOW what im talking about the pain just dont go away anymore.

 

[Axtell3]

Only 47 but can feel it coming. Take Care.

 

[mwilson]

Axtell

Thanks for the reply, when the people that sent me the pictures and the little spikes so I could make my own told me about them I wasnt sure that I wanted to put that much pressure on 4 points of the shoe. I guess that they would sink into the ground to the point that the shoe would make contact and the spikes would make a less slip point of traction. Did your Belgians ( VERY NICE ANIMALS BY THE WAY) Have ANY problems with them?



BIG

Big,

Just showed the pics to the wife, we have had horses and helped others that pull horses in competitions so have spent time hanging with farriers.



We are afraid that the snow is going to pack in around the buttons and the rest of the shoe. Then the mule is going to be sliding. A dry snow may be alright but a wet snow will screw you.



The preferred method up here is bars, they don't hold the snow and ice so bad.



Not saying we are right, but might want a few more opinions from people more qualified than me before proceeding.



I hesitated to say anything, but would feel worse if I didn't. I realize there are great differences in what is needed in different parts of the country and mules may have different needs then horses so we could very easily be wrong. It would not be the first time... .



Just ask a few more questions before adding the off-road package to the gang.



Mike.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Big,

Just showed the pics to the wife, we have had horses and helped others that pull horses in competitions so have spent time hanging with farriers.



We are afraid that the snow is going to pack in around the buttons and the rest of the shoe. Then the mule is going to be sliding. A dry snow may be alright but a wet snow will screw you.



The preferred method up here is bars, they don't hold the snow and ice so bad.



Not saying we are right, but might want a few more opinions from people more qualified than me before proceeding.



I hesitated to say anything, but would feel worse if I didn't. I realize there are great differences in what is needed in different parts of the country and mules may have different needs then horses so we could very easily be wrong. It would not be the first time... .



Just ask a few more questions before adding the off-road package to the gang.



Mike.

Thanks Mike

I rarely do ANYTHING without running it by the gangs vet. She is the one that has the final word on my buddies. Last year they did slip some but not to many times ,at no time did they fall or leg go out from under them that they would have pulled a muscle it just made me ask on some of the other forums that I talk with what they use. Most dont go into the mountains with theirs but use them like we do in the winter for plowing feeding and farm chores that are hard to get to with farm trucks or tractors even. OR HEAVENS SAKE NO!!!! THEY ARE LIKE ME AND JUST LIKE THE OLD WAYS



Mike

Just got off the phone with the Niece her thought was the same as yours that the snow would pack she gave me a website and looks like a drill bit and a hammer is what I will need to use. This is what a lot of people use around here but THEY DONT GO ON PAVEMENT without a boot. I have already tried the boot and the gang tried like heck to throw them off their hoofs like they stepped in some I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER.