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Drive pressure/EGT sensor install???

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Of course, as you are suggesting, the owner/driver has no control over the egt of an unmolested engine, it is what it is. Where the pyro can be helpful though is if something does go wrong and where he normally sees around 1400° on a loaded grade when in regen but suddenly this time the pyro gauge pegs at 1600°. The driver with gauges sees it and backs out of the throttle. He has something to base his complaint on when he takes it to the dealer and runs into a dummy who tells him "we can't find anything wrong. "

As I posted above, I had that experience back in about 2002 with my old '01. The map sensor was bad. On a trip from Las Vegas back home pulling an Airstream I was down on power enough I could feel it in the seat of my pants. I could not attain full boost or normal max egt. The dealership dummies told me nothing was wrong with my truck. I went home and called Bill Stockard and Joe Donnelly. Each of them suggested map sensor. I went back to the dealership and told the then young mechanic what I had been told. I saw the light go on in his eyes. He understood. Thirty minutes later he was back in the service lounge with a grin on his face asking me if I was ready to take a test ride. He was proud to learn that lesson and fix the truck. He and I have been close friends ever since. He now owns that '01 Dodge that he maintained and repaired for me back then.

Gauges can't prevent mechanical problems but they can help the driver recognize them and argue successfully for someone to repair it.
 
I completely understand what you are saying but since there are no PUBLISHED numbers it will not convince a dealer there is a problem. I have seen 1200 on a fully functioning 67 on a flat road w/out a trailer so realistically where do you back off????
Our Fleet sales manager tows a huge 40 foot 3 axle toy box with a 2500 67 he knows that if it fails he has a healthy warranty to fix an engine failure. Neither one of us has a clue what the Egts are pulling Cajon-if Ram was concerned they would have added a pyro to the evic
 
I completely understand what you are saying but since there are no PUBLISHED numbers it will not convince a dealer there is a problem. I have seen 1200 on a fully functioning 67 on a flat road w/out a trailer so realistically where do you back off????
Our Fleet sales manager tows a huge 40 foot 3 axle toy box with a 2500 67 he knows that if it fails he has a healthy warranty to fix an engine failure. Neither one of us has a clue what the Egts are pulling Cajon-if Ram was concerned they would have added a pyro to the evic

If I had to guess I would guess Ram doesn't install a pyro for two reasons. One is it would be unnecessary added cost for many (most?) owners and two, it would only confuse the dummies. You know the old adage - "a little knowledge in the hands of a dummy can be dangerous. "

I know what the max egt of my truck is, towing or empty, in regen or not in regen, because it has had gauges since the day I brought it home. Ram didn't need to publish that for me to know.

I also know what OEM max egt is/was on all HO ISB 5. 9 engines 2004. 5 and later because I asked a Cummins engineer and he told me, in writing. I have posted that info here many times. What he told me matched my own results precisely on my '06 5. 9.

NObody is arguing that an unmolested truck MUST have gauges. I want that additional information for my own use and have encountered at least one example of when it was essential to get my truck repaired by the local dealer.

If some of you choose not to have gauges . . . well, that is your right to decide.
 
Neither one of us has a clue what the Egts are pulling Cajon-if Ram was concerned they would have added a pyro to the evic





I don't use one but most will agree a fuel pressure gauge would have been nice on a 2nd gen 24v. Gauges help period. The more the better. Ask BSchwarzli, his 1st gen cab looks like an airplane cockpit:D most big trucks do too.



If you install gauges, (any kind) when nothing is wrong and get a normal reading, then when somthing changes you will know and act accordingly. I don't have a 6. 7, but if I did, gauges would go in.



Nick
 
I don't use one but most will agree a fuel pressure gauge would have been nice on a 2nd gen 24v. Gauges help period. The more the better. Ask BSchwarzli, his 1st gen cab looks like an airplane cockpit:D most big trucks do too.

If you install gauges, (any kind) when nothing is wrong and get a normal reading, then when somthing changes you will know and act accordingly. I don't have a 6. 7, but if I did, gauges would go in.

Nick

I run gauges in both my 2nd and 3rd gens but the 67 is a different animal and I would not own one outside warranty miles as long as smog testing is around
 
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