Truck Island Pumps, Filtered at the Pump?

[BIGNASTY]

My neighborhood convenience store with pumps always has a line and is 99% of the time the best hit on gasbuddy. They pump a ton of fuel daily.

Ca is DIFFERENT Bob you really dont have much choice in So CA as to where you are going to fill up, REALLY are you going to the TA's in Ontario to fill? they have a high fuel turnover rate!!! and 3, 30K tanks and truck after truck to drop fuel and they are ALWAYS on the brink of running out both sides. Or how about the one on Valley and Mt Vernon that one has been ticketed so many times by the Department of Weights and Measures that its not funny, could go to the one next to the International dealer in San Berdo. and get mugged. Some think because it has a high turnover rate that ITS SOMEHOW BETTER IMO are fooling themselves. Not many gas stations have 30k tanks for Diesel most around you Bob are in the 10 to 15k range if its an older station it could be even less than that, the diesel tanks WERE the mid grade gas tanks rather than tear up the station they made them into BLEND SITES to get mid grade they just put in different pumps and take 50/50 of Premium and Regular gas and WAAA LAAAA MID GRADE and converted the old mid-grade tank to Diesel, the stations that sell Diesel were not that many all that long ago Diesels were the BIG TRUCKS and not so many of our kind that can fit into the neighborhood stations.



BIG FUEL TANKS HAVE BIG AMOUNTS OF DETECTABLE OF CRAP were small tanks are more easily taken care of JMO.



BIG

 

[d6c]

I am a CFN cardlock user... . wilcox and flegel is the card issuer... . and I have studied there pumps pretty carefully at a variety of sites... . some pumps have no external filter and no visible port to access the filter in the cabinet..... soooo... ... I highly doubt that pump has a filter on it at all... also, I have a hydro-sorb type filter on my in-bed tank, which will STOP flowing if water is present. Other cardlock's in my area (non wilcox) use hydro-sorbs on their pumps..... wilcox refuses to use them "we would have to change them all the time". go figure.

 

[Bob4x4]

I used to be a cfn cardlock user also,just don't drive enough anymore... . When
i was running a fair size fleet I had 10k inground tanks for both Gas and diesel. I added filtation for both. Neither had any before
i arrived.

 

[Missouri Mule]

The CITGO I fill up has filters and they move enough diesel, never had a problem with it. Plus the diesel pump is 25 yards from my trucks.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

WELL, I don't trust ANY "maybe" filtration setup at the stations with the health and well-being of my VP-44, so I have these large and smaller filters:

-

THEN the OEM filter, then this sub-micron Frantz filter just before the VP-44:

-

NO fuel issues so far... :-laf

YUP - I'm a belt AND suspenders sorta guy!

 

[NomadJeep]

This is actually my job for a living... I work on dispensers everyday... (Wayne or Gilbarco)

You have a much better chance of having filtration on a 3/4" car set-up. If they are a decent company and care about the dispenser meters, they will use a filter. They can still use a bypass cap, but here in the north east, I only know of one company that does... . So that's 1 out of 50.

As for High speed satellites, it's a hit or a miss. They either use a large canister or a cartridge.

Cartridge filtration rate it 50 microns.

Car dispensers:
Wayne: 3/4" 300-30
Gilbarco: 1" 400-30
HS Satellite: 800-30

Either way 99% of stations only filter their diesel down to 30 microns. (Hence the -30 part)

What you guys should really be worried about is the ULSD microbe that's been destroying dispensers and hardware... . You should see the pictures I have of filters, pitted aluminum, eaten steel, and destroyed meters... .

 

[mfurrh55]

Post them so we can see what they look like,Monte

This is actually my job for a living... I work on dispensers everyday... (Wayne or Gilbarco)

You have a much better chance of having filtration on a 3/4" car set-up. If they are a decent company and care about the dispenser meters, they will use a filter. They can still use a bypass cap, but here in the north east, I only know of one company that does... . So that's 1 out of 50.

As for High speed satellites, it's a hit or a miss. They either use a large canister or a cartridge.

Cartridge filtration rate it 50 microns.

Car dispensers:
Wayne: 3/4" 300-30
Gilbarco: 1" 400-30
HS Satellite: 800-30

Either way 99% of stations only filter their diesel down to 30 microns. (Hence the -30 part)

What you guys should really be worried about is the ULSD microbe that's been destroying dispensers and hardware... . You should see the pictures I have of filters, pitted aluminum, eaten steel, and destroyed meters... .

 

[BIGNASTY]

This is actually my job for a living... I work on dispensers everyday... (Wayne or Gilbarco)



You have a much better chance of having filtration on a 3/4" car set-up. If they are a decent company and care about the dispenser meters, they will use a filter. They can still use a bypass cap, but here in the north east, I only know of one company that does... . So that's 1 out of 50.



As for High speed satellites, it's a hit or a miss. They either use a large canister or a cartridge.



Cartridge filtration rate it 50 microns.



Car dispensers:

Wayne: 3/4" 300-30

Gilbarco: 1" 400-30

HS Satellite: 800-30



Either way 99% of stations only filter their diesel down to 30 microns. (Hence the -30 part)



What you guys should really be worried about is the ULSD microbe that's been destroying dispensers and hardware... . You should see the pictures I have of filters, pitted aluminum, eaten steel, and destroyed meters... .

Welcome to the site NomadJeep

Some place in this site I made mention of the very thing that you posted I didnt know that it had evolved into a metal eating monster but for sure it has plugged it share of filters. I ran a fuel truck for a few years and always wondered about the biocide that we put down the tank before we dropped our fuel to kill the vegetable garden that grew in some of them, what was IT DOING to our systems it was some pretty gnarly smelling stuff. I gave the stations the benefit of the doubt that they would filter to 20 micron seems I was being nice to them.



BIG

 

[GCroyle]

Gary,

Uh you forgot the buttons, snap and zipper in your belt and suspender analogy!

 

[GCP]

My neighborhood convenience store with pumps always has a line and is 99% of the time the best hit on gasbuddy. They pump a ton of fuel daily.

This too, is my experience at my local fuel stop. I believe high volume fuelers are a good thing.

 

[GCP]

What you guys should really be worried about is the ULSD microbe that's been destroying dispensers and hardware... . You should see the pictures I have of filters, pitted aluminum, eaten steel, and destroyed meters... .

Don't leave us hanging. Lets see the pics!