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For the past few months I've been posting about a 2012 2500 that I had picked up. To date the truck has been a good friend. Yes I had two bad Injectors and they were replaced under warranty. This post is not about that truck.

This afternoon I had the chance to drive a 2013 Quad cab SLT. first thing you notice when you start the truck is the noise from the engine, well what little there is. Right away you notice that the engine sounds like the timing is no longer retarded. Nor is it being held back, it runs smooth with just a bit of clatter the way Mr. Diesel designed it to. The EGR valve does not fludder like it does on my 12. In fact I never saw it move at all. Put it in Drive and give it a nuge and the next thing you notice is throttle response not the delay my 12 has. The throttle is quite snappy but not annoyingly so. Next thing you notice is how fast things come up to operating Temp. The 13's have a twin Radatior system and it seems to work quite well as this truck in my test drive was up to full temp in only a mile and a half. Very much unlike the 6 to 10 miles that my 05 use to require. While I haven't driven an automatic truck in a long time a lot has changed since the 727 tourqueflight my 89 had. At no time did this truck/ transmission have that disconnected feeling my 89 had. It was almost like the G56 manual when you let off the throttle and the "E" break came on the truck slowed right down. Shifting was smooth but firm.
The suspension was also firm but not un-plesant. Fit and finish overall is as my 12 is very good, doors close solid. Rattles seem to have been dealt with. I like the choice of a darker color more a charcoal color so there is much less glair in the windshield even in bright sun. THe new soft touch buttons on the controls, well, time will tell how they hold up but seem to be of good quality. I like the fact that there is a gauage on the DEF tank. I couldn't find how big the fuel tank was, I'm guessing it's smaller than the 34 gal my 2005 had.
The 2500's use the same front end as the 12's used. there is no central axel disconnect. And the use of the 5 link system is still there. My dealer seemed to think that the 3 link suspension and the central axel disconnect is only available on the 3500 and larger trucks. So a free wheeling hub kit would be in order for better fuel economy.
While my afternoon with the 2013 wasn't nearly long enough to really dissect the new Ram, I would need a month or two with it to do that. It was enough to be able to say it looks like Ram has hit a home run with the new trucks. Take everything that is good about the 12 give it an engine that runs well and is not choked to death buy emissions systems and that what you've got with a 13.
 
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I think the DEF Tank is like 6 gal. . you use 1 gal in 1000 miles or thereabouts. .
I am looking at the 2013 as well and I would like to stay with the 68RFE as the Aisen is more option. . I have an 09 and the old DPF with how it works is not what I want. . hope the DEF fluid makes the DPF work better. . more reliable around town.
 
I'm glad to hear that a member who owns and knows Ram trucks is impressed. I'd like to see Fiat-Ram be very successful. It appears Fiat is willing to spend money on improving all their products and that's a good thing for everyone.

I'm not glad enough to buy one though. I still haven't visited a dealer to look at a Gen IV yet although I did ride in a friend's new '12.
 
I wonder if DEF is here to stay in the 2500 and 3500 Dodge/Cummins - or some different emission control on the horizon?



I believe that the DEF is here to stay, can't see why it would go away. You can plant posies in the tail pipe of a Class 8 now. No soot at all. I can't see any reason why the same wont happen with the 2500/3500 trucks. I really think the DEF now being used in these RAM trucks is going to impress all with the resulting increase in fuel economy and longer engine oil life.



Another round for the big stuff in 2014 but I think that is electronic and software changes.



Mike.
 
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I "built" a couple of trucks today on RAM's website. To replace my signature truck would be about 47K. However, if you want all the goodies like the two tone paint, fancy wheels, and fancy interior options, you have to go to a Crew Cab or the Mega Cab. It would seem that the regular cab is being relegated to primarily trade use, as it's not available above the SLT trim level. The 3500 SRW also defaults to the 3. 42 gears, going for another ratio takes you to the hemi. A nice 3500 SRW would be about 65K.
 
Did you notice what gear ratio was in the truck that you drove? I looked at a few last weekend, both auto and G56 and they were 3. 42's.
 
The 3500 SRW also defaults to the 3. 42 gears, going for another ratio takes you to the hemi.





At the bottom of the powertrain option list it has "add 4. 10 axle ratio" it appears to allow this on the 3500 SRW and either auto.



Nick
 
We've seen a long history of errors and omissions in the 'build it yourself' forum on the Ram website early in model years. The website is apparently set up by marketing types not the engineers who select and match the options.

I wouldn't put a lot of faith in that website right now. It's still early.
 
I'm not even going to get as close as the build your own website. My '08 will outlast me. I probably only put 5,000 miles on it last year . . . if that.
 
I just ordered a '13 3500 srw Laramie, HO, Aisin and 3. 42 gear set. I wanted at least a 3. 73 but to get that I had to have a dually. I don't follow Chrysler's reasoning. This is my third Cummins. The first '98. 5 with 16" tires and a 3. 55 gear set, decent mileage and decent tow capacity, a '04 with 17" tires and a 3. 73 gear set giving approximately the same performance. Now they are going to a 18" tire but restricting the gear set to 3. 42. Can anybody explain that to me. I don't know the formula for calculating that but I'm sure someone out there can. I had 264,000 on my '98. 5 but only 135,000 on my '04.




retired from Chrysler Warren Truck Assy. 2004 3500 srw Laramie HO complete stock
towing a 2004 Titanium by Glendale(now out of buss)
 
Simple. CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) regulations from the Federal government. Manufacturers are trying to squeeze every tenth of a MPG they can out of their fleets. Ram has effectively made the 3500 DRWs the real, "working" trucks with full selection of axle ratios and relegated everything with SRWs to the mall-cruiser 3. 42 gears for maximum fuel economy.



Rusty
 
I just ordered a '13 3500 srw Laramie, HO, Aisin and 3. 42 gear set. I wanted at least a 3. 73 but to get that I had to have a dually. I don't follow Chrysler's reasoning. This is my third Cummins. The first '98. 5 with 16" tires and a 3. 55 gear set, decent mileage and decent tow capacity, a '04 with 17" tires and a 3. 73 gear set giving approximately the same performance. Now they are going to a 18" tire but restricting the gear set to 3. 42. Can anybody explain that to me. I don't know the formula for calculating that but I'm sure someone out there can. I had 264,000 on my '98. 5 but only 135,000 on my '04.




retired from Chrysler Warren Truck Assy. 2004 3500 srw Laramie HO complete stock
towing a 2004 Titanium by Glendale(now out of buss)


Wheel diameter means nothing interms of gear ratio, you have to look at the tire ratio IE: 265, 285 ect
 
You have to check the build sticker closely, My 2012's sticker showed the truck had the 3. 42 rear ends however on the option list it said 3. 73. Very confusing... I know that I've got the 3. 73's as my engine RPM is the same as the 2005 that I had.
 
Don't worry about the 3:42. I just towed my combined 28K from Pheonix to near Sedona, AZ. The slowest was 55mph. Pulls great. Yes a 4:10 would be better but I am happy with the performance.
 
Not very steep to sedona, how would it do going to Flagstaff? Up here in Utah and Colorado, grades of 6-7% and 4-9 miles. My 36' toyhauler has the same gross as your 28k. I was down to 45 climbing a steep 7% grade.
 
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