Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Lift pump question

[Berrigan]

I have a leaking lift pump. The dealer says they can not put in a mechanical lift pump any longer. They now install an electric pump in the fuel tank to the tune of 1100 dollars. What do you all think about that? Gino's has them, the mechanical ones for about 100 dollars. Would I be better off to replace with a mechanical pump, and who makes a good pump that will last 16 years like the original did. Thanks Bill

 

[Missouri Mule]

Go with the one Geno's has! As I recall it's from Cummins. I just had one put on from Geno's and it's working goood (and they supply the studs).



Read where they are putting pump in tank for 24 valve's put did not know they were putting them in the 12 valves.

 

[JWiegel]

I would do both put the block pump on and in tank its easy to do yourself if you have some basic mechanical skills.

 

[Bob4x4]

The dealer is wrong the in tank pump is only for the 24 valve

 

[JLandry]

Berrigan,



I wouldn't recommend an in-tank pump because (shortcomings of the in-tank pump aside) it's a huge PITA to replace when it quits... and it will quit someday. At a minimum, stick with an original style block mounted pump, OR better yet, install an aftermarket pump on the frame rail in front of the tank for better performance.



Best regards,



John L.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

The stock mechanical pump is more reliable and also produces higher pressure, about twice as much as the commonly used electric pumps. The mechanical pump is much better for the P7100 injection pump.

 

[DRAG DIESEL]

The dealer says they can not put in a mechanical lift pump any longer. They now install an electric pump in the fuel tank to the tune of 1100 dollars. What do you all think about that?

I think the dealer thinks you have a 24valve. Order the mechanical pump, keep the filters clean and it will last a L O N G time.

 

[Berrigan]

Since my original post I have contacted another dealer and have again been told Mopar doesn't sell a block mounted mechanical lift pump for a 98 12 valve any longer. There fix is to install an electric unit. NAPA said the same thing. Cummins will sell me the OEM pump for 170 dollars. Genos will sell me a Cummins pump for 100 dollars plus shipping.

I don't understand why Mopar would not offer an economical OEM part any longer when the engine maker still does. Thank you all for your input. By reading the names of who responded to my post I feel confident you have given me good advice and saved me some money. I will be giving Genos a call. Thanks again, Bill

 

[Berrigan]

I called two more dealers and evidently the mechanical pump is still available but needs to be ordered. They are just pushing the electric conversion for whatever reason. Probably $$$$$. Thanks again, Bill

 

[Bob4x4]

The electric conversion is not for the 24 valve !!!!

 

[mwilson]

Since my original post I have contacted another dealer and have again been told Mopar doesn't sell a block mounted mechanical lift pump for a 98 12 valve any longer. There fix is to install an electric unit. NAPA said the same thing. Cummins will sell me the OEM pump for 170 dollars. Genos will sell me a Cummins pump for 100 dollars plus shipping.



I don't understand why Mopar would not offer an economical OEM part any longer when the engine maker still does. Thank you all for your input. By reading the names of who responded to my post I feel confident you have given me good advice and saved me some money. I will be giving Genos a call. Thanks again, Bill

It would appear before posting here on the TDR that you encountered some folk both at the dealer and aftermarket levels that have absolutely no idea what they are talking about... .



Get the Geno's pump with the studs (you will not question the wisdom of this when the job is finished)!



Then you should be good for another 16 years... ...



Mike

 

[Texis]

Dodge can only support parts for so many years. At this juncture our trucks are 14-16 years old. After all, you cannot walk into a Dodge dealer and get a fuel pump for a 69 Charger with a Hemi?



Get the Genos pump, install it and go another 200K. Mine went out at over 300K I believe, I checked with Dodge, same story. I went to Cummins and they had the pump on the shelf. I took the pump to the Dodge dealer and they installed it.



This is the same with the vacuum pump / power steering pump sub-assembly. No rebuild kits from Dodge, but Cummins carriers the o-ring rebuilt kits. Dodge wants $1,000+ for a complete replacement unit.



NO on the electric pump, why complicate your truck??... go with the OEM mechanical pumps from Genos or direct from Cummins.



When you are running vehicles this old, you have to get a bit creative when it comes to parts.

 

[mwilson]

Automotive OEM's will start to turn their backs on a product after 10 years unless it is a fast moving item that sells frequently enough to turn a profit.



Heavy Duty OEM's and Engine Manufacturers such as Cummins are just getting warmed up at the 10 year mark and are in it for the long haul.



We benefit from that everyday with our Cummins Powered Rams.



Mike.