DPF warranty ?

[Bob4x4]

Running ANY programer makes the lie-o-meter less accurate My 05 gets 25mpg running on 37's too according to the overhead and only drops to 20 when towing at 70 mph

 

[gsbrockman]

So.....................................I guess the pic below validates that I get 35.3 MPG ???? :-laf

 

[Kirwin]

So.....................................I guess the pic below validates that I get 35.3 MPG ???? :-laf

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You don't Greg? We all get that normally!!! Heck I've gotten 36 on occasion!! :-laf:-laf:-laf

 

[Newsa]

Interesting discussion. However, not all DPF's have catalysts. Some passively regen by heat alone, and some by combining heat with a catalyst. I wonder if the DPF really does have an 8 year/80k warranty.

I did notice that there are alot of 2013+ low mileage Ram DPF''s for sale on EBay from those who deleted with fewer than 10,000 miles.

 

[Bob4x4]

Interesting discussion. However, not all DPF's have catalysts. Some passively regen by heat alone, and some by combining heat with a catalyst. I wonder if the DPF really does have an 8 year/80k warranty.

I did notice that there are alot of 2013+ low mileage Ram DPF''s for sale on EBay from those who deleted with fewer than 10,000 miles.

I am not sure what you are refering to.All rams with dpfs also have cats

 

[Newsa]

I am not sure what you are refering to.All rams with dpfs also have cats

I was referring to the assertion that the DPF is covered by federal emissions for 8 years/80,000 miles. The DPF and SCR are separate parts. The SCR contains catalysts and is this covered for 8 years/80,000 miles. The DPF is not specifically mentioned anywhere in the federal emissions warranty. However, some DPF's also have a catalyst coating sprayed on the surface of the inner filter fins to assist with passive regen. I would assume the DPF is only covered for 8 years/80k if it also has a catalyst. Does anyone know how long the DPF warranty is? Because none of the booklets or links on here confirm the warranty beyond a shadow of doubt

 

[TRAMPLINEMAN]

What "soot" ????? The CCV filter basically provides crankcase ventilation filtering of the "mist" from the engine's oil system. No "soot" goes through the CCV ......and there's no prescribed EGR valve cleaning and no prescribed EGR cooler cleaning on a 2013 & up DEF pickup at 67,500 miles, 135,000 miles, etc. Your dealership staff sounds inept. No wonder your truck sucks.................

What soot? I have no idea. I couldn't figure that one out myself. I do know that the valve doesn't require cleaning, but I cleaned it anyway. It did not need it.

While you are correct about the dealer, they are the preferred dealer around here. I had spoken to two other dealers previously about the fuel filters. They both assured me that my truck only has one fuel filter and it's mounted under the hood. One of them also told me that my truck uses the same fluid in the rear diff as the transmission since I have a manual. So, my options aren't good.

 

[Newsa]

I was referring to the assertion that the DPF is covered by federal emissions for 8 years/80,000 miles. The DPF and SCR are separate parts. The SCR contains catalysts and is this covered for 8 years/80,000 miles. The DPF is not specifically mentioned anywhere in the federal emissions warranty. However, some DPF's also have a catalyst coating sprayed on the surface of the inner filter fins to assist with passive regen. I would assume the DPF is only covered for 8 years/80k if it also has a catalyst. Does anyone know how long the DPF warranty is? Because none of the booklets or links on here confirm the warranty beyond a shadow of doubt

I am inclined to believe that the DPF warranty expires at 3/36.

Unless proven otherwise.

 

[TRAMPLINEMAN]

No blowing soot out of lines.There is a pressure sensor in the t/stat housing that will sometimes plug not allowing the pressure sensor to see any pressure but this will trip a code.Any restriction in the ccv filter system will also trip codes.Any sensor giving bogus readings can also give you issues without giving a code that will be put you in the correct direction without anyalizing the entire system as a whole

These are the codes I had.
P1451
P242f
P2463
B173d-12
B280b-00

 

[Thump]

The DPF is part of the truck's emissions system, it should be under the Federal emissions equipment warranty of 8/80... seeing as you will be failed in an emissions test without it and it's listed as part of the emissions system on the underhand placard (sticker)

Somewhat easy to find out: call a RAM dealer in another county or large city in your county, and one in another state. Ask the Service Manager (not just an advisor) if DPF is under federal emissions warranty. Or, call RAM customer care (if you have a few hours to sit on hold)

 

[Bob4x4]

These are the codes I had.
P1451
P242f
P2463
B173d-12
B280b-00

Case Number: S1125000002
Release Date: 10/10/2013
Symptom/Vehicle Issue:
Case Updated and Now Includes MY 2007 through 2014 Cummins Diesel. MIL P1451 and/or
P2463 and/or P242F. The Diesel Particulate Filter may have been replaced previously. Other DTC’s
may also be present (i.e.; O2, EGR and Turbo faults).
Discussion:
Replacing the DPF and not finding the “Root Cause” for excess soot load will result in a repeat failure.
Repeat MIL illumination due to DTC’s listed above may possibly be caused by fuel contamination
causing improper fuel control by the injectors resulting in excessive soot generation. Other systems
and components can cause excessive soot generation or DPF over-temp issues, including
Turbocharger, EGR Valve, and several engine system management sensors (i.e.; Mass Air Flow
(MAF), Crankcase Pressure Sensor (CPS) and Exhaust Pressure Sensor (EPS) to name a few).
DPF loading concerns may also be caused by the operator’s driving habits or “drive cycle”. Vehicles
used for short trip, light load and/or low speed operation may never have the opportunity to perform a
proper aftertreatment regeneration resulting in excess soot build up in the DPF. An example of this
drive cycle is called a “package and delivery” drive cycle, such as Postal or Parcel delivery
applications. Latest calibrations to the ECM/PCM and CCN allow communication to the operator
through the EVIC, a message when soot levels in the DPF require regeneration and instruct the driver
to drive the vehicle at elevated speeds in order to perform adequate aftertreatment regeneration.
Diagnostics on the 2007 and later, DPF equipped Cummins diesel have recently been updated and
include a “Symptom Based” procedure and an online worksheet to be completed on all drivability or
aftertreatment issues. For detailed instructions on this new process, see 6.7L CUMMINS TURBO
DIESEL COMMON DIAGNOSTIC PROCESS under “Announcements” on the front page of
TechCONNECT.
NOTE: Replacing the DPF without determining and repairing the “Root Cause” will result i

 

[Bob4x4]

When you hve thiscombination of dtc's the dtc's can not be cleared with a touch of the button.My guess for this software coding is to keep consumers from clear and drive.The dpf data has to be reset-I don't know if any aftermarket tools have this ability.

 

[Bob4x4]

Perfect!! I'm at 82K.

Send me the last 8 of your vin

 

[Bob4x4]

I am inclined to believe that the DPF warranty expires at 3/36.

Unless proben otherwise.

That would not be correct.The coverage is not up to dealer interpretation either.It is cut and dry,once the diagnosis has determined the dpf has failed the labor operation is entered into the system and it will come back as being covered or not and if covered it will say under what coverage-cummins engine emission,etc.

 

[TRAMPLINEMAN]

send me the last 8 of your vin

...eg143228

 

[Newsa]

That would not be correct.The coverage is not up to dealer interpretation either.It is cut and dry,once the diagnosis has determined the dpf has failed the labor operation is entered into the system and it will come back as being covered or not and if covered it will say under what coverage-cummins engine emission,etc.

Ok, thank you, Bob4x4 for weighing in on this.

Does that mean the warranty coverage for DPF depends on the diagnosis? And does "not taking the truck in when it has MIL/CEL" affect the length of the DPF WARRANTY?

 

[Bob4x4]

Ok, thank you, Bob4x4 for weighing in on this.

Does that mean the warranty coverage for DPF depends on the diagnosis? And does "not taking the truck in when it has MIL/CEL" affect the length of the DPF WARRANTY?

No,the dpf must be bad as per diag not just throwing a part on it.Corporate can and will charge the dealer for replacing parts that have not failed.The warranty does not change,it is fixed time/mileage.The point is to find the root cause and repair that-not to throw a part/parts at it.Dpf codes are usually caused by other parts or conditions

 

[Newsa]

So, is it true that the DPF warranty is federally mandated to be 8/80k? Just curious because it's not specifically listed.

 

[repo4sale]

I deleted everything & should have done it at 1 mile not 100,000 miles, #ad

Checked out 7 shops, Oregon, Vegas, Houston, Ft Worth, Dallas, Tennessee, Oklahoma City & this shop[emoji2] #ad

 

[Bob4x4]

So, is it true that the DPF warranty is federally mandated to be 8/80k? Just curious because it's not specifically listed.

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