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[gsbrockman]

Come on you know that 14K is ONBLY there to keep the truck in Class 3 for insurance and licensing purposes.

If you disagree as I know you should not being a trucker. How can I have a SAE rated 9,750 RAWR and not load a pound to my front axle and NOT be overloaded???

Using that logic......you could easilllllllly get by with a 2500 then.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Using that logic......you could easilllllllly get by with a 2500 then.

Nice non answer.

 

[brillmtb]

="brillmtb, post: 2554183, member: 17114"]I am curious that a rail issue when the engineer said it was programming




Mod the rail and than report back what source was correct.

The restrictors stop the spikes but in the Process it created much of the lag, I suppose the source was unaware or just left that out.

Can you add more info on how and what is involved to mod the rail. Will that impact emissions as I have to smog in Reno. Also since the engineer said there was a programmed in TQ management I wonder if that will solve the issue. Its not learning how to roll on a throttle, tried that multiple times. No vehicle should behave like this off the line and I am not trying to ruin my truck just get it going smoothly in traffic. Thanks

 

[Dl5treez]

Here is a REAL load! Almost 60K AISIN trouble free miles about 1/2 towing. GS needs a 4500 to do the same.
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Are you over on your drive?

 

[gsbrockman]

Are you over on your drive?

Yeppppp....over on rear GAWR and over on truck’s total GVWR.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Are you over on your drive?

Weight ticket shows about 150# over RAWR but i was carrying something in tool box I normally don't. Besides that weight ain't gonna make a darn bit of difference.

Yes over GVWR, but maybe someone can explain how if I don't add a single pound to the factory FAW of 5,250 or so and load rear to RAWR 9,750# that is SAE rated I can't be over the Licensing/Insurance Class 3 limitation?

OH, I am under my CGVWR.

GS yer flappin your jaw just to be flappin!

 

[Dl5treez]

Weight ticket shows about 150# over RAWR but i was carrying something in tool box I normally don't. Besides that weight ain't gonna make a darn bit of difference.

Yes over GVWR, but maybe someone can explain how if I don't add a single pound to the factory FAW of 5,250 or so and load rear to RAWR 9,750# that is SAE rated I can't be over the Licensing/Insurance Class 3 limitation?

OH, I am under my CGVWR.

GS yer flappin your jaw just to be flappin!

Well. To a weighmaster it matters. They probably give most overload tickets for individual axle at least around here.

Depends on the state a lot too.

As far as the door stickers go.

 

[gsbrockman]

Weight ticket shows about 150# over RAWR but i was carrying something in tool box I normally don't. Besides that weight ain't gonna make a darn bit of difference.
GS yer flappin your jaw just to be flappin!

What a total non-answer

I apologize, Butthurt Betty.

Simply continue on, in whatever fashion appears to make you shine the most, without any regard to anything else.

Your use of fuzzy math, utilized to only allow you to weasel out of the facts, is laughable.

To everyone else, though, it’s off to the gas chambers!!!

 

[jhenderson]

Around here over gross is .10cts per pound. Over axle is $1.00 per pound.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Well. To a weighmaster it matters. They probably give most overload tickets for individual axle at least around here.

Depends on the state a lot too.

As far as the door stickers go.

I am licensed to carry as much as I want. Tire load carrying capacity is my legal limitation.

 

[Cummins12V98]

What a total non-answer

I apologize, Butthurt Betty.

Simply continue on, in whatever fashion appears to make you shine the most, without any regard to anything else.

Your use of fuzzy math, utilized to only allow you to weasel out of the facts, is laughable.

To everyone else, though, it’s off to the gas chambers!!!

Ok, YOU spell out how I can get ticketed for my load as shown on my cat Scale tickets. NO spin please!

 

[Cummins2014]

Ok, YOU spell out how I can get ticketed for my load as shown on my cat Scale tickets. NO spin please!

You have found a way to justify the weight you are towing , why not just leave it alone. Most of us thank goodness stay within our weight limits.

 

[Learjet]

this is from "Wadcutter" on my favorite RV site:

"The topic is brought up every second Tuesday and everytime someone responds who has no knowledge of the laws but just repeats the same old campfire stories which are flat out wrong.
I am a retired state police commander. I commanded a district which had the highest fine producing fixed scales in the state. In additiona I was one of 2 of the first Troops in the state to be certified as motor carrier safety inspectors. By IL statute only the ISP has the authority to conduct MCS inspections. I taught truck weight and MCS law at our academy. Over the years I weighed a lot of trucks. I also weighed a lot of RVs of various styles, not because of the law but because the RVers asked to be weighed to have their loading checked. Never ever saw any of them even come close to approaching max legal weights.
Simple answer to your question. The sticker on your truck is placed there by the manufacturer. It's like the tag on your mattress. It's required by law to tell the consumer what is in that product. After sales that sticker doesn't have to remain on the vehicle and there are a lot of vehicles legally on the road today which no longer has the sticker because of body repair, etc. The manufacturers do not make the laws. Think about this too. Do you think every Troop or weigh master out there has memorized what all the manufacturers stickers say on every style of truck made? Then toss into the mix 4X4 v 4X2, same model trucks but with different engines, same model trucks but with different axle ratings, or same model trucks but just different years. We don't care what the sticker says or even if there is a sticker. What the manufacturers put on that sticker is not law, it's just a to let the consumer know what that particular vehicle's design specs are.
The max weight laws are generally 20K on a single axle, 34K on a tandum axle and gross is 80K. These are federally mandated limits. I say "generally" because gross depends on the bridge length of your vehicle (distance between the front and rear axle) and the number of axles. The 34K can also vary depending the distance between the tandum axles. It could be more. Weight limits may also be posted less than the max on certain roads.
As an RVer you don't have to worry about exceeding the 20K single axle, 34K tandum axle, and 80K gross. There's no way you are going to be anywhere close to any of those numbers. Think about it. On your 5er you put 16" E range tires on a 5K or 6K rated axle. Your suspension and tires wouldn't handle 20K or 34K loads. And no way are you getting anywhere close to 20K on the steer or drive axle on your pickup. Your Big Country doesn't even come close to approaching 34K on the tandums. Your entire rig is likely to be about 20K total. You could not load your 5er and 2500 with enough toys to get close to exceeding the weight limits."

"Don't confuse registered weight with axle and gross weights. 2 competely separate things and one is not related to the other. The only thing in common between the 2 is the word "weight" but neither law is related to the other. It's confusing for those not familar with the law. When they hear/read the word "weight" they don't understand the difference between registered weight limits and axle/gross weight limits. The OP was inquirying about axle/gross limits.
I've explained registered weights ad nauseum in the past too. Registered weight limits are really nothing more than a tax. In fact if you look at your state statute for registration fees it's likely that particular statute is titled something like "registration tax fees". You pay a certain amount of tax, ie registration fee, to haul a certain amount of weight. For example, if you want to haul 8000 lbs in your pickup then you pay the tax (registration fee) for 8000 lbs. But if you then haul 11,000 lbs in your pickup you would be subject to fine for overweight on registration, ie, didn't pay enough tax to haul 11,000. We use to do force registration in IL where if someone as described in the example was stopped then we could force the driver to purchase higher registration plates right there before he was allowed to move further. The increased registration cost was in addition to the fine. Now we just write the citation and if there's a record of additional such violations, particularly if company owned, then inspections can be done on the company and force increased registration."

"You can register you vehicle for whatever weight you want to haul. However, if your truck's empty weight is 7500 lbs then of course it wouldn't do you any good to register it for 6000 lbs as empty you'd already be 1500 lbs over your registered weight. If you registered that same truck for 8000 lbs then you could carry an additional 500 lbs on the registered plates. If you want to haul more than the 500 lbs then you need to pay more tax, ie registration, to haul whatever load you want to haul. "

"None of the 12 different state I've towed with commercial plates in used "axle manufactors ratings" which is the big buzz that started this topic again. [/quote] That's because the manufacturer's ratings aren't law. Those are like the mattress tags. They just tell the specs for the product, they aren't statutes.

His comment on what vehicle weights they use for enforcement for our non commercial trucks was in his words mirrowed the same weight regs as dot uses.

Exactly. Axle and gross weights are the same whether the truck is commercial or private. Weight laws are in place to protect the roadways. An 80,000 lb commercial load weighs exactly the same as an 80,000 private load. The statutes do not specify commercial or non-commercial, the only concern is the weight on the road."

Full thread if you are interested https://forums.goodsamclub.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/20577181.cfm

 

[Dl5treez]

I am licensed to carry as much as I want. Tire load carrying capacity is my legal limitation.

Cool cool. That's the key many people don't consider, as long as the tonnage is paid to uncle governor.

Some states can be vicious with door stickers but there is no requirement it remain on the vehicle, so....

If you're registered to carry X then that is what most weighmasters will be concerned with. Trailer combinations get too confusing for me.

 

[Cummins12V98]

You have found a way to justify the weight you are towing , why not just leave it alone. Most of us thank goodness stay within our weight limits.

Nice non answer.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Learjet thanks for the post. I know for a FACT I am not overloaded, thanks for the info. Lots of nay sayers on the subject.

 

[gsbrockman]

Learjet thanks for the post. I know for a FACT I am not overloaded, thanks for the info. Lots of nay sayers on the subject.

Ha ha ha ha
Whatever makes you sleep great at night.
You’re OVER your rear GAWR and you’re over your GVWR.

Additionally.....when are you going to post that wimpy 33k or 35k weigh ticket?????

 

[SnoKing]

Ha ha ha ha
Whatever makes you sleep great at night.
You’re OVER your rear GAWR and you’re over your GVWR.

Additionally.....when are you going to post that wimpy 33k or 35k weigh ticket?????

Guess you did not read the quote from "Wadcutter", GVWR means nothing. But again if you tow commercially you know all about Federal Bridge Weights and being correctly licensed for the weight you are hauling.

 

[gsbrockman]

Guess you did not read the quote from "Wadcutter", GVWR means nothing. But again if you tow commercially you know all about Federal Bridge Weights and being correctly licensed for the weight you are hauling.

I did read it.....and that post is almost laughable. Go to NC and see what those CVE guys say.
In all of the 9 inspections I’ve had in the last two years, the door sticker of my power unit and trailer’s GVWR sticker are heavily observed, and I’ve had some states even run the bar code on my door jamb sticker.

I will admit....this is with ME under a COMMERCIAL setting. I’m sure some states probably aren’t going to heavily scrutinize RV’s in a non-commercial setting. Additionally......I have a friend in NV and he says the CVE are cracking down on lots of non-commercial RV’s with lots of red tags.

The only part of that post that had any credibility to it was the info regarding registered weight.

 

[SnoKing]

I did read it.....and that post is almost laughable. Go to NC and see what those CVE guys say.
In all of the 9 inspections I’ve had in the last two years, the door sticker of my power unit and trailer’s GVWR sticker are heavily observed, and I’ve had some states even run the bar code on my door jamb sticker.

I will admit....this is with ME under a COMMERCIAL setting. I’m sure some states probably aren’t going to heavily scrutinize RV’s in a non-commercial setting. Additionally......I have a friend in NV and he says the CVE are cracking down on lots of non-commercial RV’s with lots of red tags.

The only part of that post that had any credibility to it was the info regarding registered weight.

Just don't remove the tag on your mattress!