“New” 2018 2500 Ram. No way to monitor EGT & Regen

[TCDiesel]

The IQ shows the same data in 2018 as 13 I just confirmed it with owner of 2018 , I updated the IQ and he moved everything from his 2013 to 18, You r APP is the problem.

 

[CiscoEd]

UPDATE: Based on TCDiesel recommendations, I purchased another app (ODB Fusion) and BOOM! (Insert victory sound here!). It reads ALL of the PIDs a boy could ever want! TCDiesel, I bow humbly to your knowledge and patients with this noob. I will use the forum for all my questions and always be a bit more humble to the extensive knowledge base here. Thank you TCDiesel, and everyone else who offered up their knowledge and experiences.

 

[RT395]

I've been using the OBD Fusion App for over a year now and it works very well. My setup is very simple and basically just monitors regen status. I've observed that the EVIC message has only ever come on a handful of times in 45k miles and it doesn't stay on more than a few minutes. Regen will remain active for quite some time after EVIC msg indicates complete. (verified by PID and EGT) If you only had the EVIC, you might park the truck in the driveway and call it good. I prefer to keep driving it until regen ACTUALLY completes and burn the soot out the DPF as much as possible. I think over the long haul that may extend the life of the DPF.

I think the EVIC msg only comes on in extreme cases and only stays on long enough to burn the DPF soot level down to about 85-90% which will get you down the road for now. Can you imagine if it came on during every regen and stayed on for an entire regen cycle? Sales would plummet since most drivers would find that to be a huge negative.

 

[amauri]

UPDATE: Based on TCDiesel recommendations, I purchased another app (ODB Fusion) and BOOM! (Insert victory sound here!). It reads ALL of the PIDs a boy could ever want!

Which OBD BT adapter are you using please?

 

[RT395]

Which OBD BT adapter are you using please?

I realize this question was not directed at me and I'm not sure what others are using but I was told that the Bluetooth wouldn't work with OBD Fusion app - I bought wifi OBD adapter and it works great. That was over a year ago so things may have changed. Mine is called a ELM-327

 

[kthaxton]

I've been using the OBD Fusion App for over a year now and it works very well. My setup is very simple and basically just monitors regen status. I've observed that the EVIC message has only ever come on a handful of times in 45k miles and it doesn't stay on more than a few minutes. Regen will remain active for quite some time after EVIC msg indicates complete. (verified by PID and EGT) If you only had the EVIC, you might park the truck in the driveway and call it good. I prefer to keep driving it until regen ACTUALLY completes and burn the soot out the DPF as much as possible. I think over the long haul that may extend the life of the DPF.

I think the EVIC msg only comes on in extreme cases and only stays on long enough to burn the DPF soot level down to about 85-90% which will get you down the road for now. Can you imagine if it came on during every regen and stayed on for an entire regen cycle? Sales would plummet since most drivers would find that to be a huge negative.

So is that what the orange circle is indicating, a regen?

 

[RT395]

So is that what the orange circle is indicating, a regen?

Yes, That displays regen status - Orange=active

Last time I was paying attention to it, the regen lasted 25 minutes - much longer than the EVIC would have you believe.

My setup is fairly simple compared to others I've seen but that's the nice thing about the app, you can customize it to your own needs.

 

[CiscoEd]

Which OBD BT adapter are you using please?

I am using the Kiwi 3 ODB.

 

[CiscoEd]

I've been using the OBD Fusion App for over a year now and it works very well. My setup is very simple and basically just monitors regen status. I've observed that the EVIC message has only ever come on a handful of times in 45k miles and it doesn't stay on more than a few minutes. Regen will remain active for quite some time after EVIC msg indicates complete. (verified by PID and EGT) If you only had the EVIC, you might park the truck in the driveway and call it good. I prefer to keep driving it until regen ACTUALLY completes and burn the soot out the DPF as much as possible. I think over the long haul that may extend the life of the DPF.

I think the EVIC msg only comes on in extreme cases and only stays on long enough to burn the DPF soot level down to about 85-90% which will get you down the road for now. Can you imagine if it came on during every regen and stayed on for an entire regen cycle? Sales would plummet since most drivers would find that to be a huge negative.

I like your setup. What specific PIDs are you monitoring for the three smaller gauges? The RPM is easy enough...

 

[RT395]

I like your setup. What specific PIDs are you monitoring for the three smaller gauges? The RPM is easy enough...

DPF Capacity is a "User-Defined PID" see screen shots for the specific settings...
EGT is using one of the included PID's "Exhaust gas temperature bank 1, sensor 3" (I went with this sensor because it was consistently giving me the highest readings)
REGEN is using one of the included PID's "DPF Regen Status"

Let me know what you come up with.

 

[CiscoEd]

DPF Capacity is a "User-Defined PID" see screen shots for the specific settings...
EGT is using one of the included PID's "Exhaust gas temperature bank 1, sensor 3" (I went with this sensor because it was consistently giving me the highest readings)
REGEN is using one of the included PID's "DPF Regen Status"

Let me know what you come up with.


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How did you create the “user defined PID” ?

 

[RT395]

How did you create the “user defined PID” ?

CiscoEd, It was over a year ago - I read many forum posts and googled anything and everything on that very question. I figured out just enough to make it work but I am certainly no expert. I found a custom PID for the torque app on a forum thread (not sure where) and basically copied the settings into the Fusion app and got it to work. You should be able to create a new PID in your fusion app using my settings and get the same results. You will see a warning to proceed with caution so do this at your own risk. That last screen shot has all the settings that I am using for the DPF soot level. Here is more detailed info on custom PID's In the Fusion app, I found User Defined PID's under "Settings" from the main menu. Hope this helps you.

 

[ram17]

CiscoEd, It was over a year ago - I read many forum posts and googled anything and everything on that very question. I figured out just enough to make it work but I am certainly no expert. I found a custom PID for the torque app on a forum thread (not sure where) and basically copied the settings into the Fusion app and got it to work. You should be able to create a new PID in your fusion app using my settings and get the same results. You will see a warning to proceed with caution so do this at your own risk. That last screen shot has all the settings that I am using for the DPF soot level. Here is more detailed info on custom PID's In the Fusion app, I found User Defined PID's under "Settings" from the main menu. Hope this helps you.

Thanks for this valuable info esp the DPF capacity PID and also showing the example of the DPF REGEN STATUS. Some questions -- I have a 2017 CC 6.7L 4x4 , I assume the DPF capacity PID is ok with my vehicle. The warning makes me very leery about causing a problem with a user PID. Also EGT on my Torque is bank 2 you show bank one. Do you know the difference (if there is one.)

 

[RT395]

Thanks for this valuable info esp the DPF capacity PID and also showing the example of the DPF REGEN STATUS. Some questions -- I have a 2017 CC 6.7L 4x4 , I assume the DPF capacity PID is ok with my vehicle. The warning makes me very leery about causing a problem with a user PID. Also EGT on my Torque is bank 2 you show bank one. Do you know the difference (if there is one.)

I was also Leary of that warning on my 2016 but I have used it for over a year with no ill-effect. I should mention that the DPF capacity has a lag - the value with continue to drop for up to a day after a regen. Not sure why but it does. As for your question about the EGT sensor, I went with the one that was consistently the hottest one because I didn't want to monitor them all but I wanted to have some indication of what the temp was reaching.

 

[amauri]

I picked up a BlueTooth OBD Scanner yesterday and have been experimenting on my 2018 CTD 2500.
So far I've configured my dashboard to look like what RT395 posted on #23 above, thank you very much for taking the time to do that BTW.

I think I have everything working correctly, my DPF % is showing 90% and EGT is around 300-400º as I drove around town today.
Does that 90% indicate that the system is about to go into a Regen process soon?

 

[CiscoEd]

CiscoEd, It was over a year ago - I read many forum posts and googled anything and everything on that very question. I figured out just enough to make it work but I am certainly no expert. I found a custom PID for the torque app on a forum thread (not sure where) and basically copied the settings into the Fusion app and got it to work. You should be able to create a new PID in your fusion app using my settings and get the same results. You will see a warning to proceed with caution so do this at your own risk. That last screen shot has all the settings that I am using for the DPF soot level. Here is more detailed info on custom PID's In the Fusion app, I found User Defined PID's under "Settings" from the main menu. Hope this helps you.

Wow! I looked and looked for the user defined PID!!! If I am not being too selfish, what are your settings for the REGEN dial? Love what you did!!!

 

[RVTRKN]

These photos are of the OEM REC radio, in which I now have the Clarion NX605, but its the same size screen. These guages are as real as analog, except its video output from the DashCommand app that sees the PID's from modules that the Kiwi Wifi uses. It sure helps save room from clunky gauges. But I can use my iPhone instead if I wish. The only negative is, I have to use a iPod/iPhone 4, due to the lighting plug is digital only. I mostly use my iPhone 7 now with the larger screen. I don't recommend doing this unless you want to spend big bucks, its cheaper using a Edge monitor.

 

[RT395]

Wow! I looked and looked for the user defined PID!!! If I am not being too selfish, what are your settings for the REGEN dial? Love what you did!!!

The REGEN indicator config is easy - it's either one or zero on the dial. Makes it simulate a "light" Here is a screen shot.

 

[y2k17ram]

I prefer to keep driving it until regen ACTUALLY completes and burn the soot out the DPF as much as possible. I think over the long haul that may extend the life of the DPF.

Same here. Been using Torque Pro for about a year ... every time the DPF status hits 100%, I get on a freeway 'til the regen completes.

 

[brillmtb]

How do you know when you are in regen with just EGT monitor such as my new smarty and which EGT is best to monitor, are there not multiple spots, thanks