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There it is Folks: Ram HD Fourth Generation.5

Attention: TDR Forum Junkies
To the point: Click this link and check out the Front Page News story(ies) where we are tracking the introduction of the 2025 Ram HD trucks.

Thanks, TDR Staff
Spied. The 2020 Ram HD.

First, visit The Truth About Cars for their take on it.

Now here is a letter from the editor that is being typeset for TDR Issue 103.

RIGHT OR WRONG: HOW 'BOUT THAT FOURTH GENERATION.5 (4G.5)

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(Brian Williams photo.)
Was I right? Was I wrong?

• This magazine was sent to the printer on 12/28. In this issue I have written something about a new Ram HD.

• This magazine was sent to press on 1/14. We’re about to print something about a new Ram HD.

• The folks at Ram/Cummins are in attendance at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) to unveil something on 1/14. By now my prediction is in ink.

• Your magazine arrives early-mid February and you either laugh at the editor’s prediction and/or you give his new nomenclature idea your consideration.

Okay, you may have missed it. I presented a nomenclature idea that I shared with you in the previous, Issue 102, magazine. This new nomenclature goes hand-in-hand with my prediction: You now have a Fourth.5 Generation Ram/Cummins with a new 6.7-liter, compacted graphite iron (CGI) block. This new engine gives us 400 horsepower and 930 torque.*

(*5thGenRams.com)

The following is from the last issue:

“Think back to 1/1/2007. If you will recall, Cummins met the 2010 emissions requirements with their new ’07.5 6.7-liter engine. As I’ve picked up from reading the Columbus, Indiana Republic newspaper and from watching Cummins for the last 30-or-so years, they are proactive, hence there will be a complete engine redesign for 2019.5.

“We’ve all done this mid-year emissions-rule-change/engine hardware- change song and dance before, haven’t we? Year '91.5 saw a change to the engine with the addition of a charge air intercooler. Year '98.5 saw dramatic changes as a different cylinder head (24-valve) and an electronic fuel injection pump were added to the engine. Year ’07.5 gave us the entirely new 6.7-liter engine and the addition of emissions aftertreatment components.”

So, borrowing the nomenclature idea used by others in the automotive world to designate changes that occur within a chassis/ cabin “generation”, here is what I would propose.

First Generation 1989-1991
First Generation.5 1991.5-1993

Second Generation 1994-1998 (12-valve models)
Second Generation.5 1998.5-2002 (24-valve models)

Third Generation 2003-2007 (5.9 HPCR models)
Third Generation.5 2007.5-2009 (6.7 HPCR models)

Fourth Generation 2010-2019 (6.7 HPCR models)
Fourth Generation.5 2019.5-??? (6.7 CGI models)

What do you think?

Truthfully, if TDR owners adopt the nomenclature it will stick. I will try to rename the columns on our web Forums. I have already renamed the columns in the magazine.

Am I right? Am I wrong?
 
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who care how much TQ they give it, they will just increase the TQ management more than the crap we are already dealing with having bought an Aisin transmission even......no, Im not bitter, Im pissed they cant make these trucks take off as nicely as even my old 2003.
 
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Does it go in circles since the tires on the left side of the truck are smaller than the right side? :D JK happy new year!
 
Hopefully Ram get's the info out sooner than later on the latest and greatest HD/Cummins models. You can't order a 2019 HD yet that should have been out 6 months ago. Ram should just skip 2019 and run 2020 for 18 months. My dealer fleet guy said Ram told them to stock up on 2018 2500/3500 as they'd have a long period of not being able to order 2019/2020 HDs and you still can't order.

I got my 2016 Ram 3500 on August 2nd in 2015. We ordered it the day ordering opened up and I got the first 2016 they sold...... so was hoping to order a 2020 HD soon for next summer.
 
It will start to cost them. I have been on some decent size dealer's sites that had few or zero 3500s. Even when I was in PA for Christmas, I drove through a couple dealer lots who had none. Like my Dad said, you can't sell from an empty wagon. The intro is supposed to be on the 14th(?), so let's get on with it Ram!
 
And don't forget, it's gotta be the first pickup with over 1,000 ft/lbs torque from the factory.:cool:
 
Small article on the new Ram 3500 Cab Chassis on HDRams.com with a few pictures....Note the 10 bolt 4500/5500 spare tire/wheel...these blue suit testers just slay me. What really irritates me is when you hear them say "Diezel":mad::D

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I see Ford revealed the new 2020 Explorer before the Auto Show next week. It also sounds like this is the last winter show for Detroit, 2020 will be in June. The article also listed the new vehicles that will be announced …...Ram might only be the 2500.....
 
I am watching really close for you Tom! I am a morning person, Lol What is crazy, is there is not much interest in this thread....Cummins web site and all...yet on the first page there are 6 threads on politics...ho hum..

I think the CG block will be huge news, as in a complete new block from the ground up. I really think they will address the head gasket and Siamese block issues with a wider bore spacing. All it needs is a real "Jake":)
 
I am watching really close for you Tom! I am a morning person, Lol What is crazy, is there is not much interest in this thread....Cummins web site and all...yet on the first page there are 6 threads on politics...ho hum..

I think the CG block will be huge news, as in a complete new block from the ground up. I really think they will address the head gasket and Siamese block issues with a wider bore spacing. All it needs is a real "Jake":)
I am up at 4 or so, but usually seek my coffee and morning BS session before logging on.

I am anxious to see the new powertrain, for sure. I'm with you on the Jake, but...
 
Up at 4? why so late? I'm usually punching into work around 0415 to wake up the 645 EMD's that have been in-trusted to my care. I'm so not a morning person but would rather listen to the EMD's grumbling as they wake up than my wife. Lol
 
I'm really interested in what we are going to see for transmission options. GM announced a 10 speed Allison, Ford has been using 10 speed transmissions in its F150 a few years now so I would expect they are working on one for the Super duty. Hopefully Ram keeps their units serviceable - aka a dipstick - unlike the 8HP in the Ram 1500.
 
The rumor I read was 8 spd HD ZF, so if it's like the 1/2 ton version it won't have a dipstick. Maybe they saw the light??? Nah!
 
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