Video conversation: 2019 3500

[CUMMINZ]

My belief about newer 3500 HD RAMs being rated for 30k-35k has always made me sweat. I have often said that these trucks would most likely be lacking without 19.5" wheels and tires. I still believe that. I also in the long run think the brakes could be much better. Below video makes my point.

 

[FATCAT]

My belief about newer 3500 HD RAMs being rated for 30k-35k has always made me sweat. I have often said that these trucks would most likely be lacking without 19.5" wheels and tires. I still believe that. I also in the long run think the brakes could be much better. Below video makes my point.

I believe the new tow ratings by the "Big 3" have become ridiculous and dangerous.
Refering to your comment about the manual transmissions ... Dodge was STUPID to discontinue them. The de-tuning of the trucks with manuals was always a stupid ID, but I think they did this purposely to make them less desirable so they could discontinue them at some point. All they had to do is offer a Eaton FSBO-9406A 6 speed and I believe they would have sold like hot cakes.

But to the ridiculous weight numbers they are touting now, if you want to be pulling 30K+ around get a Pete 330 or a F650/750 or a Freightliner with air brakes. If your doing this all the time ... get the CDL and a truck MORE than capable of towing that weight with ease.

Someone who thinks they can pull 33 or 35K with a 3500 or 350 is going to get someone killed. Especially with all the electronic nonsense they put in the new cars/trucks these days it is almost impossible to NOT be distracted. Wet or snowy roads ... a load like that will just push the truck right into a line of cars on the highway no problem.

 

[Cummins12V98]

The 2019 MAX tow trucks are NOT de tuned.

These trucks are SAE J2807 rated for the loads they are claiming.

 

[CUMMINZ]

All chassis cabs are detuned.

 

[Cummins12V98]

2019 HD pickups "MAX TOW" will not be torque limited at all. RAM Guy said burning rubber into 3rd with the DRW's.

 

[TFucili]

2019 HD pickups "MAX TOW" will not be torque limited at all. RAM Guy said burning rubber into 3rd with the DRW's.

Got a link to that?

 

[JR]

Probably the same source that said no more EGR....

 

[Cummins12V98]

Got a link to that?

Listen to the video.

 

[TFucili]

Listen to the video.

The V-Belt video? I saw that days ago and I didn't see anything about no torque management, or burning DRWs in three gears. Mr Truck made sort of a wise crack about it in his video with Rod Romain.

 

[Cummins12V98]

The V-Belt video? I saw that days ago and I didn't see anything about no torque management, or burning DRWs in three gears. Mr Truck made sort of a wise crack about it in his video with Rod Romain.

I don't know there have been so many. It's there.

 

[TJJEEPER]

There was a conversation with the Chevrolet Engineers, don't remember which exact video, where the transmission engineer said they had done away with the torque management. There are so many video clips floating around that the Chevy clip might be where the "no torque management" might have come from.

 

[AH64ID]

There was a conversation with the Chevrolet Engineers, don't remember which exact video, where the transmission engineer said they had done away with the torque management. There are so many video clips floating around that the Chevy clip might be where the "no torque management" might have come from.

I'm really curious to see if that is a true statement.

Just running some quick numbers....

Torque Rating: 1000 lb/ft
1st Gear: 3.75:1
Transfer case output torque: 3,750 lb/ft.

That's above the short term torque limit for a 1550 series u-joint.

I can't find any specs on the BW 44-48 transfer case.

Point being that 3,750 lb/ft is a LOT of torque to handle in the small area that holds a pickup drive train.

Combine the axle gears and with 4.10's you could have 15,375 lb/ft (no drive-train loss) available at the rear wheels....


I just have a hard time seeing why that much torque is needed in 1-3rd gears, even with a 35K lb GCW.

 

[NIsaacs]

With a pickup, you would loose traction way before max multiplied torque could happen.

 

[TFucili]

This video posted today, and around the seven minute mark they talk about 1K ft/lbs from first gear up. Hmmmmm...

 

[NIsaacs]

Coolness, now about them tires...??

 

[Cummins12V98]

There was a conversation with the Chevrolet Engineers, don't remember which exact video, where the transmission engineer said they had done away with the torque management. There are so many video clips floating around that the Chevy clip might be where the "no torque management" might have come from.

I watched that one, I also watched the one with the head ram guy and Mr Truck stating no TQ management.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Guy in above vid even says it's fun burning tires in 3rd gear.

 

[kthaxton]

I watched that one, I also watched the one with the head ram guy and Mr Truck stating no TQ management.

I bet there is still some TM upon initial acceleration and during shifts.

 

[Cummins12V98]

It will make people drive by the pedal instead of just pushing down. I am sure tire roasting will be little effort.