What’s the best GDE reprogram way to go?

[AH64ID]

If ones dealer is aware of the tune and still offers full factory warranty then that's at least interesting - and rare.

I would also state that the dealership is likely putting themselves in jeopardy with FCA.

 

[cerberusiam]

I've been following this thread and wasn't going to join in this until brods accused me (and others) of trying to trick my dealer, that was the last straw. My dealer is fully aware of and supports my tune. brods obviously hasn't a clue except he thinks he knows what is right and what is wrong.

You guys are treating this as a grey area, it ain't. It is clear cut BLACK and WHITE as it gets. Brods is dead on based on the initial post; when someone starts talking about an alternate ECM and how it effects warranty there is NO other way to interpret what is there. I would suggest some go back and READ the initial post without bias instead of attacking belief that most of us share.

This ain't our first rodeo with these types of issues, in the end it comes down to INTEGRITY. Expecting a lot of pats on the back and attaboys for violating a tenant like that is not going to net you much.

As far as the Dealer being aware and supporting the tunes, anybody can pay lip service then bail when crunch time. Come back to them with an expensive repair and see how much support and awareness you really get. I see the dealer did not guarantee a new engine if it goes, whne it comes down to a $20k fix odds are that suppost isn't what you THINK it is.

I would also state that the dealership is likely putting themselves in jeopardy with FCA.

More than likely, as close to given as possible that if FCA catches them trying to run a warranty claim on a tuned engine jeopardy is attached. Given that FCA basically sent word down the chain to "deny warranty at every chance" I have my doubts a dealer is going to jeopardize their corporate relationship for ONE truck.

It is your truck, do what you want with it. Don't expect a lot of support when you start talking "deleting" and "warranty" because, as Brods pointed out, that costs all of us.

 

[JJJ]

Well the OP said exactly "I’ve got the AEM update and just signed for the money. When it arrives, I want to get the GDE update.
What updates are worth getting? The transmission one too? FCA is treating me with it!
Will it affect my warranty so I need to keep my original ECM? I just made 29,000 miles."

There was no mention of please judge me or my morals. He wants the tune and more power to him. The questions were simple.,
1. What updates are worth getting?
2. The transmission one too?
3. Will it affect my warranty so I need to keep my original ECM?

That's it period. Why do some care to put a spin on it and turn it into "I'm part of the chosen few and I am here to judge the many". Maybe it's time to get off your high horse and get in touch with reality. The GDE is not a rolling coal tune. It more than likely saves us consumers countless dollars as it provides a ore reliable engine.

 

[cerberusiam]

Sheesh, miss the forest for the trees there much???? #3 is pretty obvious, so obvious that you likely need some remedial English classes to grok it.

Who are you really??? Jerrold Nadler trolling for some luv?????

 

[John Jensen]

You guys are treating this as a grey area, it ain't. It is clear cut BLACK and WHITE as it gets. Brods is dead on based on the initial post; when someone starts talking about an alternate ECM and how it effects warranty there is NO other way to interpret what is there. I would suggest some go back and READ the initial post without bias instead of attacking belief that most of us share.

This ain't our first rodeo with these types of issues, in the end it comes down to INTEGRITY. Expecting a lot of pats on the back and attaboys for violating a tenant like that is not going to net you much.

As far as the Dealer being aware and supporting the tunes, anybody can pay lip service then bail when crunch time. Come back to them with an expensive repair and see how much support and awareness you really get. I see the dealer did not guarantee a new engine if it goes, whne it comes down to a $20k fix odds are that suppost isn't what you THINK it is.



More than likely, as close to given as possible that if FCA catches them trying to run a warranty claim on a tuned engine jeopardy is attached. Given that FCA basically sent word down the chain to "deny warranty at every chance" I have my doubts a dealer is going to jeopardize their corporate relationship for ONE truck.

It is your truck, do what you want with it. Don't expect a lot of support when you start talking "deleting" and "warranty" because, as Brods pointed out, that costs all of us.

If you are going to quote me, please don't elaborate with your diatribe. Brods accused me of trying to trick my dealer - I said I did no such thing. How does that shake hands with all the crap in your above gibberish?

 

[JJJ]

Sheesh, miss the forest for the trees there much???? #3 is pretty obvious, so obvious that you likely need some remedial English classes to grok it.

Who are you really??? Jerrold Nadler trolling for some luv?????

Are you serious??? #3 is so basic even a caveman would understand . Let me try and make it easier for you to understand. If it affects my warranty do I need a spare ECM and keep my original. I'm still not seeing anything about please judge my moral values. Maybe it's to look past your nose.

 

[RVTRKN]

Herb, just because the dealer is working with you doesn't mean FCA won't deny your warranty claim. The tune you have seems to be accepted and proven by other customers. More power to you for bettering a questionable product with the suspect ECO diesel engine. However your playing with fire with the ECO Diesel and the high failure rate, and not necessarily due the stock tune. Good luck with your truck, keep the original ECM for other reasons, but the dealer is aware and reinstalling the original ECM in hopes of keeping warranty probably wont work.

 

[HerbW]

Well! GDE seems to be shut down by the EPA so I don’t know what to do.
Any other tunes worth it? Sofa King? I’d love to kill the EGR and dirty oil plugging up my engine. My mileage sucks after the AEM upgrade.

 

[John Jensen]

SFT is still in business with great ECU and TCU tunes.

 

[HerbW]

Have you used SFT? I do like OBDII programs. Thanks

 

[John Jensen]

Have you used SFT? I do like OBDII programs. Thanks

Yes

 

[HerbW]

Holy Fu-k! I can’t believe the politics that come out on social media when a simple question is asked. I appreciate people like John J. and JJJ answering my questions. Thanks
I’m 90 percent full on my exhaust regeneration AGAIN last night and 18 mpg average. With an empty truck and my old butt, that’s poor mileage when I’m driving some distance. I want to make it cleaner or go back to a Cummins. I can afford fuel, just want a clean long lasting engine.
I’m waiting for Sofa King to answer my email to them.

 

[TCDiesel]

I supported Factory OP for 3 Years, I did 10K service on My Plenum, It was fifthly dirty every Time, and Needed replacing Both EGR/Plenum at 41K Miles... I now recommend Tuning your 3.0. The VM 3.0 seems to do well in HWY use. My use was Mixed Hwy/City. The AEM is worst for Owners, the Benefit of AEM is warranty and the $$$$.

I leased the fuel analyzer from MNPCA and mentioned back in Mid 2015 that the 3.0VM would not pass actual Rd testing, 1.5 Years later EPA agree with Me.

IMO Here's the situation, The CAA at almost 0 NOx is just crazy, a Few PPM of NOx ( NOx is naturally created by lighting) will not kill the environment, even a few PPM released will only equal a few OZ in over 500K miles. The 3.0 EGR/Plenum just is not capable of surviving in DD use, in turn it causes engine problems that cost $$$$ in repairs.

I will be doing More testing with My Cummins Dec/Jan and I will publicly post the data for all to see and view... I no longer Own My 2015 Eco. If I did you bet It would be tuned.

I had to change my view on many things over the years, You just cannot blame owners for tuning when the system won't support what laws it demands. If the EPA going to enforce lifetime standards on CAA then the Makers NEED to warranty ALL emission related components to 10 Years or 150K miles.

I have posted this for Years.


Factory warranty Voided emissions

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Maybe I can clear this UP, GM All makers Must meet the certification REQUIRED by Federal Law. The instant YOU delete / defeat ON/OFF road use (The only exception to this law is Race or off road competition) GM or your Dealer cannot (legally) even repair the Vehicle if it has State Plates.

Enforcement is the issue, Many times action is NOT taken when the warranty is voided, This is the parties involved discretion, MAKE NO mistake YOUR warranty is voided the instant you make defeat or delete steps to any component that’s needed to meet the certification.

Enforcement is the major part of any Law, if No enforcement then it’s a statement, if the parties involved decided to enforce the law it is now binding and absolute.


Your warranty cannot be Voided on all component's that have NO bridge or connection, Example NEW radio cannot void suspension components, but it sure can void ALL electronic communications. Enforcement is the key Part of any law or warranty. When disagreements arise, they are generally decided by arbitration or Judge.

This statement is close to 10 Years old