Oil Analysis Results

[DeansRedRam]

Just had the oil on my 2018 analyzed and want to share it with everyone here, but I cannot for the life of me figure out a way to share it on here... currently have it in a PDF format.

I'm usually pretty tech savvy but I can't figure it out.

Any help is greatly appreciated!!

 

[DonFitzwater]

Select the "Upload a file" button on the bottom of your reply window and attach it.

 

[DeansRedRam]

Where was that button when I was creating the thread? Now I feel dumb. Anyway...


Just to start with the basics, truck is a 2018 Ram 3500 SRW Mega Cab Limited H.O. with the Aisin trans and auto level rear.

Bought the truck used with 16k miles and currently has 19k on it. I don't know what the previous owner did with the truck but when it was purchased it was in immaculate condition and the 5th wheel had never been used. The truck is originally from New Brunswick and the factory navigation has markings all the way down the east coast to Florida so I'm assuming a road trip was involved.

When I purchased the truck the dealership said they changed the oil + filter. Me, being me, I don't trust dealerships to

1.) Actually change the oil

2.) Use a quality of oil/filter I would be happy with.

So, at roughly 18.5k miles I sent in a sample and changed the oil with roughly 2500~ miles if what they said was true. FYI I use Amsoil 15w-40 Full Synthetic + Amsoil Ea oil filter. The filter I pulled off the truck was a "Champ LFP780". Never heard of that so I'm glad its off. Blackstone Labs did comment that the oil filter was doing its job, but when I removed it from the truck I noticed rust on the outer edge of the rubber gasket; the part that is exposed.

I would love for it if anyone has a report with around the same mileage to compare to! Blackstone has me a little bit concerned with the notice of that high iron count. But I will report back with a report in 5000 miles.

 

[AH64ID]

Those aren't bad numbers for a fairly new engine.

How did you sample the oil? mid stream on the drain?

Which oil are you running?They don't have the type of oil you run on the report, just the weight, which will hinder the ability to give accurate results as well. You might not have known on this report, but for future reference.

While it wasn't likely needed, or shouldn't be, at 2500 miles TBN is not listed on that report. TBN would have really told you if they changed it or not, no way to really know without it. Blackstone charges extra for that, which is absurd IMO. I also haven't ever gotten the warm fuzzy from their techs when you call them... they don't seem to know engine oil vs cooking oil over the phone.

I would look at OAI testing. They are who my local Cummins uses, and they include TBN on their standard kit. Special kit pricing is available thru Amsoil since that's the oil you use.

I bought my 18 used as well, with 3200 miles on it. Dealer said they changed the oil but they didn't. I dumped the factory fill at ~4500 miles and then changed it again around 11K. I now have Amsoil DME in it and will sample it for the first time at the next change.

 

[DeansRedRam]

Those aren't bad numbers for a fairly new engine.

How did you sample the oil? mid stream on the drain?

Which oil are you running?They don't have the type of oil you run on the report, just the weight, which will hinder the ability to give accurate results as well. You might not have known on this report, but for future reference.

While it wasn't likely needed, or shouldn't be, at 2500 miles TBN is not listed on that report. TBN would have really told you if they changed it or not, no way to really know without it. Blackstone charges extra for that, which is absurd IMO. I also haven't ever gotten the warm fuzzy from their techs when you call them... they don't seem to know engine oil vs cooking oil over the phone.

I would look at OAI testing. They are who my local Cummins uses, and they include TBN on their standard kit. Special kit pricing is available thru Amsoil since that's the oil you use.

I bought my 18 used as well, with 3200 miles on it. Dealer said they changed the oil but they didn't. I dumped the factory fill at ~4500 miles and then changed it again around 11K. I now have Amsoil DME in it and will sample it for the first time at the next change.

I should have included that. Grabbed oil from the stream after running for about 10 seconds.

I don’t know the brand of oil that was in it, or if it was conventional or not but I’m guessing conventional.

I didn’t opt for the TBN because of the extra amount you had to pay, I didn’t see it necessary, maybe next time I will.

I’ve always sworn by my amsoil in all my vehicles and toys and now I want to see how it really holds up and protects my engine.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Good call on the DME Signature Series 15-40 and the Ea/Donaldson filter. I have ran several 15k changes with good reports.

Changed OE at 3k and filled with DME 15-40 then changed at 15k with sample below.

 

[EDankievitch]

Just drive an be happy Dean.

 

[DeansRedRam]

Good call on the DME Signature Series 15-40 and the Ea/Donaldson filter. I have ran several 15k changes with good reports.

Changed OE at 3k and filled with DME 15-40 then changed at 15k with sample below.

View attachment 118369

That’s great news, makes me feel a lot better about my iron count.

What does DME stand for?

I should add I don’t use the signature series amsoil in my CTD, I use regular amsoil.

 

[DeansRedRam]

Just drive an be happy Dean.

You know I can’t leave anything alone!! Lol

 

[AH64ID]

That’s great news, makes me feel a lot better about my iron count.

What does DME stand for?

I should add I don’t use the signature series amsoil in my CTD, I use regular amsoil.

My dad is using that oil in his 2017. I’m curious to see what your oil analysis looks like, as I doubt he will be doing any on his.

DME is the product code for the 15w-40 signature series diesel oil.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I ASSUMED you were using the DME because you said full synthetic.

next change you should change to the DME.

 

[AH64ID]

I ASSUMED you were using the DME because you said full synthetic.

next change you should change to the DME.

???

Amsoil doesn’t offer a synthetic blend in 15w-40 diesel oil.

 

[Cummins12V98]

When I think “Full Synthetic” I think of the best they offer. Hard to get the “OE” out of my head.

yes you are correct

 

[AH64ID]

When I think “Full Synthetic” I think of the best they offer. Hard to get the “OE” out of my head.

yes you are correct

When they offered OE it also was full synthetic. Amsoil is a synthetic company after all, in fact I can't ever recall them offering a blend.

The signature series is a better oil and 50% more expensive than the standard oil. If someone is looking to run extended drain intervals it's a better choice, but if they want to follow the OEM 6 month, 500 hour, 15K mile interval than the ADP is a perfect oil with some savings. With UOA ADP might extend to 12 months, but I know DME will.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Damn schooled again. Bottom line I never really cared about anything but their best.

Retail $

DME $11.80

ADP. $8.30

 

[gsbrockman]

Bottom line I never really cared about anything but their best.

Lots of us would have NEVER guessed...

 

[Cummins12V98]

Ya know that turbo may have lasted longer if you were running SCAM/ZOIL.

 

[JR]

With UOA ADP might extend to 12 months.

Without starting an oil war, I would hope it would. Any modern conventional oil is capable of doing so. Our entire fleet lives long healthy lives running fleet spec 15w40 oil on 500 hr intervals or annually despite seeing alot of single digits to below zero nights. Some hit 500 hrs first, some hit annual first. All the cranes have high idle times. The shuttle wagons get started cold, ran hard, (pushing loaded rail cars around a yard) and shut down hot. We've got an assortment ranging from mechanical 4b and 6b to 24 valve CAPS engines to early dpf to tier IV SCR 6.7's. I've been with this outfit since around the start of CJ4 spec and never seen an engine worse for wear. Some have north of 10k hrs, some have less.
Based on what I've seen, the 6 month interval is an overly conservative play and I wouldn't be surprised to see Cummins do away with it in the near future.
Detroit Diesel is in their 2nd or 3rd year on the new DD5/DD8 platform, normal service intervals are 1500 hrs/annual on DD93K222 spec (CK4 oil).

 

[AH64ID]

Without starting an oil war, I would hope it would. Any modern conventional oil is capable of doing so. Our entire fleet lives long healthy lives running fleet spec 15w40 oil on 500 hr intervals or annually despite seeing alot of single digits to below zero nights. Some hit 500 hrs first, some hit annual first. All the cranes have high idle times. The shuttle wagons get started cold, ran hard, (pushing loaded rail cars around a yard) and shut down hot. We've got an assortment ranging from mechanical 4b and 6b to 24 valve CAPS engines to early dpf to tier IV SCR 6.7's. I've been with this outfit since around the start of CJ4 spec and never seen an engine worse for wear. Some have north of 10k hrs, some have less.
Based on what I've seen, the 6 month interval is an overly conservative play and I wouldn't be surprised to see Cummins do away with it in the near future.
Detroit Diesel is in their 2nd or 3rd year on the new DD5/DD8 platform, normal service intervals are 1500 hrs/annual on DD93K222 spec (CK4 oil).

I agree completely. I personally don't see any reason it wouldn't, but like most every other oil they are rated for manufacturer intervals... so that's what I was pointing out.

All of my vehicles get the oil changed annually, and have for twenty years or more.

Ram upped the OCI on the 2019's to 12 months/500 hours/15000 miles. I am not sure if they finally caught up with the times or think something changed with the motor...guessing the first.

 

[Cummins12V98]

During the Summer months I am driving my 01 Sport 99% of the time so I am not driving the 15 DRW as many miles. Probably change once a year now at less than 15k.