Air Filter

[Rob5]

What air filter should I get for my 2016 Ram diesel?

 

[AH64ID]

Factory (Mopar/Fleetguard). They aren’t expensive and not sure there is a better one you can buy.

I got mine at Geno’s. I shopped around and they had the best price at the time.

 

[Wiredawg]

I 2nd factory and Geno's.

 

[Rob5]

I went to Amazon because of the free shipping and I am having trouble figuring out which one to order. I seem to have ordered part no. 53034051AB last time but the description says it is only for up to 2012.

 

[nukegm]

x3 - what wiredawg and AH64 said. happy easter and happy fri yay !

 

[AH64ID]

The Fleetguard part number is AF27684. I believe all 6.7’s use the same filter.

Even with shipping Geno’s was cheaper last time I bought one.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

That's the one filter I will use Fram for, they compare very well with the oem filter for number of pleats and quality of construction.
Inexpensive, and many times walmart has them in stock.

 

[AH64ID]

Pleats are the least important spec on a air filter. Flow, dirt holding, and filtration rating are far more important. If you don’t know those I’d be leery of running a different brand.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

Pleats are the least important spec on a air filter. Flow, dirt holding, and filtration rating are far more important. If you don’t know those I’d be leery of running a different brand.

The number of pleats is directly related to air flow and filtration ability and dirt capacity.
Been running them from the very first air filter change and the intake tract on my truck is as clean as any out there.
FRAM CA10261

 

[Cummins12V98]

FRAM, no thanks!

2007-2012 DODGE RAM 2500 3500 6.7L CUMMINS DIESEL AIR FILTER MOPAR OEM $29.20 AMAZON

YES it works on my 2015

 

[AH64ID]

The number of pleats is directly related to air flow and filtration ability and dirt capacity.
Been running them from the very first air filter change and the intake tract on my truck is as clean as any out there.
FRAM CA10261

Actually what the pleats are made of is what matters, not the number of them.

Not saying it’s a bad filter, just pointing out the number pleats is pointless without many other specs.

Just a quick glance at Fram’s website shows it’s a 12mo/12K mile filter. Hmmm... not quite equal to stock (24mo/30K miles), so it costs more if changed according to their specs. So it goes to show that even Fram doesn’t consider their similar number of pleats as a similar filter.

 

[GrantP]

I have been a member here for a long time, the one thing I am absolutely sure of is that some arguments aren't worth having. You can suggest a Fleetguard air filter, then someone will say they've had their XYZ intake or filter for years and it works great. Spacer lifts are a bad idea, but someone is happy with their Rancho spacers, shocks, and improper fitting wheels on BFG's. An aftermarket electric fuel pump on a 12V, THE fix for death wobble, on and on.

If you think about it, some of these products DO work just fine for the customer. If you sell your truck every 3 years does less than ideal filtration matter much? If you replaced every part in the front end to fix death wobble, than it must have taken all of those parts to fix it rather than doing the homework to determine which part(s) was at fault right? (Hint, it probably wasn't your steering stabilizer). Your buddy installed an aftermarket fuel pump on his VP44 truck so it must be better on a 12V too.

Nobody wants to hear their new toy was a waste of money (or worse) a downgrade in reliability or performance. Opinions are free and they are usually deeply embedded no matter which side you are on. The odds of changing someone's mind on an internet forum is probably pretty small.

 

[Jim W]

Wasn't there a video on the Fleetguard site showing the quality of their filters over other brand of filters for use on the Cummins engine? I even believe that TDR showed this video link in the past!

I just had to replace my air filter on my truck this year: I paid $32.37 from Geno's which include some shipping cost, the actual filter cost is $28.25. Since I buy several other filters when I order anything from Geno's. This way I can average the shipping cost over the entire order.

I will repeat my mantra again: You are willing to spend anywhere from $50,000 to $70,000 for your truck. But you are not willing to spend a few more dollars for a quality filter. I don't understand that logic of thinking.

 

[Wiredawg]

FWIW, I like Fleetguard/Mopar air filters, if Fram works for you, just fine for you. There are documented tests out there that prove which ones are better, but in the end, it's individual right to choose. I'm guessing, for example, there must be enough business for Fram to keep selling filters for our trucks and my guess is those folks are happy. I have a friend, retired USAF and now a cattle rancher, who has exclusively used Fram oil and air filters on his 2000 Ram 2500 Cummins since new with first T4 oil and filter change . Truck has ~300K miles. A long time ago I mentioned to him there's better than Fram out there... he spit some dip and kindly said he hasn't had a problem and doesn't expect to.

Anyhoo, most of us 20 year plus Ram Cummins owners have pretty much figured out what works for us. I don't have anything else to say about it.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Ozymandias]

It also depends a lot where the Truck is used, in the dry West with continuously lots of dust in the Air or somewhere wet an humid with mostly clean air.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"A long time ago I mentioned to him there's better than Fram out there... he spit some dip and kindly said he hasn't had a problem and doesn't expect to."

YEP and I bet the same was said of the owners that had a failed engine from the use of the notorious Fram oil filters.

Fram is like so many Companies that start out good then possibly sell out and the new owners will ride the name but produce a lesser quality product.

 

[AH64ID]

It also depends a lot where the Truck is used, in the dry West with continuously lots of dust in the Air or somewhere wet an humid with mostly clean air.

Very true. Even the crap K&N works well in some uses.

I do a lot of dusty/dirt driving at slow speed and high boost. That intake is sucking in everything that’s floating around the truck. I want the best filter I can fit in the stock box, which just happens to be the stock filter.

 

[Cummins12V98]

If your truck is a "Highway Queen" it probably does not matter as much as the guys that hit the dirt often. For me in the Desert Hot Springs area where it's windy and always blowing dust it does matter.

Still I will always buy the better quality product.

 

[Wiredawg]

"A long time ago I mentioned to him there's better than Fram out there... he spit some dip and kindly said he hasn't had a problem and doesn't expect to."

YEP and I bet the same was said of the owners that had a failed engine from the use of the notorious Fram oil filters.

Fram is like so many Companies that start out good then possibly sell out and the new owners will ride the name but produce a lesser quality product.

Ron, I'm certainly not defending Fram, but something that happened 20 years ago or so is what it is. Just saying there is a whole population of Ram Cummins owners using Fram today who know nothing about past failures is all. Heck, I used Fram air and oil filters in all my gassers from when I started driving in 1974 until I became "ENLIGHTENED" when I joined TDR back in 2000... never had one of them burn or use oil or fail, FWIW.

We pretty much agree on Donaldson oil filters and Fleetguard air filters, so there.

Cheers, Ron

 

[EDankievitch]

Fran air filters seem to. E ok. But someone changed their lube oil filters made them way cheaper an they don’t hold up as well. I still get them for the wife’s Honda but only when I can’t get Bosch.

I have used Baldwin filters at my old job. They held up well on everything except the C9 CAT engines. I’m convinced that the filters cost us quite a few high pressure oil pumps but could never prove it.