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[Cummins2014]

My 5th will came with Sailun ST235/85R16G tires. Never had a problem with them. Some believe in only buying American made products however.

I can rephrase that a little bit for you , some want you to believe they only want to buy American , he!! we all want that ,but in reality that’s nearly impossible, no let me rephrase IMO it’s impossible .

 

[Cummins12V98]

Bottom line is “I” do my dardest to buy USMade, always have.

 

[Cummins2014]

Bottom line is “I” do my dardest to buy USMade, always have.

I’d like to say that , but it’s impossible, first I want the best product , that’s not always possible buying American , that puts me buying Saliun over Goodyear for starters . I ordered some grade 8 bolts , nuts , and washers online , could not find the length I needed locally , no idea where made , but I’d bet they are made in China . How do I stay away from that ??????

 

[Cummins2014]

Any brand tire can tear up your trailer. GY is noted to pay for the damage if you are polite and firm with them. Tell me any other tire company that does that.

I’ve been following a thread on the Montana Owners forum titled “ Sailun Tire Failure “ on the tire section . This thread was started last July , the guy had tread separation, and damage to his fifth wheel . To answer your question now, I do know a tire company that will pay for the tire failure , and the damage done , that would be Sailun . Paid for his damage to his fifth wheel , and replaced the tire .

That was great news for him as well as others that own the Sailun brand . The tire in question was one that was made in Vietnam , which has had some tread separations . I have yet to read of any issues with the China made Sailuns .

 

[Kirwin]

Kirwin, I don't see how you could be 140# over with a 19,640# DRV??? I am at 24k with 17,500# load on the 4 tires, that is an average 4,375# pre tire.

Don’t believe that your trailer tire positions are equally loaded. It’s simply not that way in the real world. You can see from the weights that my kitchen slide on the left side is heavy! The trailer has gotten a little heavier over time. The sheet attached was our individual wheel weights from Michelin. I helped him take the weights so I’m sure that we got the positions right. Axles had 17,830 on 2 8K rated axles. Yes we were overloaded. On a side note; If your DRV is at 24K with 17,500 on your axles, your pin weight would be 6,500 lbs! That’s at least 1,400 over your max payload without the hitch or anything else in the truck AND your over your truck’s rear GAWR too!

 

[SnoKing]

Your tow behind came with US Made ENDURANCE GY’s and hey were nice enough to give you a new tire even tho it was road hazard damage.

NO, I put the GY's on it the first week. And GY paid one half of the cost of a replacement tire.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Don’t believe that your trailer tire positions are equally loaded. It’s simply not that way in the real world. You can see from the weights that my kitchen slide on the left side is heavy! The trailer has gotten a little heavier over time. The sheet attached was our individual wheel weights from Michelin. I helped him take the weights so I’m sure that we got the positions right. Axles had 17,830 on 2 8K rated axles. Yes we were overloaded. On a side note; If your DRV is at 24K with 17,500 on your axles, your pin weight would be 6,500 lbs! That’s at least 1,400 over your max payload without the hitch or anything else in the truck AND your over your truck’s rear GAWR too! View attachment 131826

So you are saying you have 2k pin weight??? Does not add up.

To my supposedly being over weight. I am not. I am right at my 9,750# SAE RAWR

The 14k is a joke and not relevant as it’s there only for licensing and insurance purposes. I am licensed to carry my weight.

No doubt one side weighs more than the other but I have weighed each side and each wheel and was not over 4,800# on any tire. I also have these tires fail on each side. It’s simply a case of these tires not holding up at the higher loads.

Even with your one tire being 180# over it should not fail.

I am over my 8K MORryde rating but when there to add 3” risers they checked out my sheer springs offset. They said I was right in the middle and did not need to add their 9k springs. They said all it would do is create a harder ride.

 

[Cummins12V98]

NO, I put the GY's on it the first week. And GY paid one half of the cost of a replacement tire.View attachment 131829 View attachment 131830

I stand corrected. The fact is they didn’t have to do anything.

There are a lot of new RV’s coming with the ENDURANCE now.

 

[Kirwin]

Ron, I’m not calling you out. I am saying your numbers don’t add up. 24,000-17,500 = 6,500 lbs. Either your trailer doesn’t weigh 24K or you axles don’t have 17,500 lbs on them, or your pin weight is 6,500, which, if true, indicates your rear axle is overloaded. I’m of the opinion that your axles probably are loaded to about 17,500 lbs based on my experience with my DRV. The 19.xxx weight was when I first got my DRV so I need to update that number now that it’s equipped with my set up for power. I am over 21K total on the trailer. My DRV has a GVWR of 21K, and I’m over that by about 500 lbs. my pin weight is calculated at 4,200 lbs. You can see from above I’m at 9,530 on my rear axle.

 

[JR]

NO, I put the GY's on it the first week. And GY paid one half of the cost of a replacement tire.View attachment 131829 View attachment 131830

Gadzooks! Someone lost a chassis bolt and you found it!

 

[endoscott]

"No coverage on my headlights GRRRR"
Did you read warranty really close? They tried for a minute to deny me on front axle u joint, calling it a "wear component". I looked it up and that was BS, they covered it without too much arm twisting. I think warranty states everything pretty clearly but I don't have it here to see about headlites. U joints definitely were covered on Maxcare.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Kirwin no problem. I found a hand written note from a highway scales. My rear axle at that time was about 10,500# so it'a a bit over RAWR. Also axles were 17,980. I am sure i am a bit less now and close to RAWR as I removed a lot of STUFF last Summer.

When at DRW in 2016 my side to side was very even with 23k and 5,600 pin. At the 24k I am sure the pin was 6k as I had weighed the truck solo at that time.

The payload number is as much of a joke as the 14k GVWR.[/QUOTE]


I am betting your actual RV weight is much more than 21,500#. Your pin is 17% based on 17,830# axle weight. Most tandem axle DRV's are much closer to 25% especially with a gen.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"No coverage on my headlights GRRRR"
Did you read warranty really close? They tried for a minute to deny me on front axle u joint, calling it a "wear component". I looked it up and that was BS, they covered it without too much arm twisting. I think warranty states everything pretty clearly but I don't have it here to see about headlites. U joints definitely were covered on Maxcare.

The guy is the Assistant Service Mgr and showed me something on the computer saying not covered. I do have a call into the Service Assistant Mgr I dealt with up North to get his take on this.

 

[AH64ID]

The payload number is as much of a joke as the 14k GVWR.

I agree, however I would respect the RAWR. Even thou the axle it self is rated higher than 9,750 that doesn’t mean the frame or suspension are rated higher. It’s limited by something and that’s not the axle itself or GVWR.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I agree, however I would respect the RAWR. Even thou the axle it self is rated higher than 9,750 that doesn’t mean the frame or suspension are rated higher. It’s limited by something and that’s not the axle itself or GVWR.

Agree as at the time I had a LOT of cylindrical shaped items with pointed ends that added to the overage.

 

[AH64ID]

Agree as at the time I had a LOT of cylindrical shaped items with pointed ends that added to the overage.

I hope they were properly disposed of

 

[Cummins12V98]

Many were! Lots of fun.

FrontSight in Pahrump, NV

 

[bcbender]

The guy is the Assistant Service Mgr and showed me something on the computer saying not covered. I do have a call into the Service Assistant Mgr I dealt with up North to get his take on this.

Id think headlight Bulbs... not covered, but lenses and assemblies should be,... I especially hope so on these corner turning LED monstrosities I have on my Limited.

FWIW, I had maxcare change 2 sets of front ujoints... much better to pay the deductible than mess with rested unit bearings and rusted axle caps....

 

[Ram4Sam]

Id think headlight Bulbs... not covered, but lenses and assemblies should be,... I especially hope so on these corner turning LED monstrosities I have on my Limited.

FWIW, I had maxcare change 2 sets of front ujoints... much better to pay the deductible than mess with rested unit bearings and rusted axle caps....

Pages 6 and 7 of the maxcare warranty are the parts not covered..........Lookslike a no go for the headlights.....

Sam

 

[NIsaacs]

Well, you can't beat free that's for sure!!! But, if you join the DRV Owners Group FB page, we have a lot of 2 axle DRVs on Continental LR J HTL2s and so far, 0 failures. They are a robust tire that has stood up to everthing our group has thrown at it. They are not always easy to come by however.

Dang, that is a spendy tire!

https://www.tires-easy.com/235-75-17.5/continental-tires/htr2/tirecode/4920110000

I have these on my dump.

https://www.tires-easy.com/235-75-17.5/hercules-tires/strong-guard-h-ra/tirecode/95322