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2013 ram 3500 6.7 4x4
replacing ball joints, drivers axle slid out easy with a plastic shield along for the ride, not sure how ill re install that as its way down tube by seal.
However passenger Side will not slide out? Do I need to remove the axle disconnect to get this side axle out?
Im finding nothing by searching as the 13 is the change year for the 3500, also found nothing searching as a 2014. any help will be greatly appreciated
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That plastic piece is part of the axle seal, should probably replace the seal. You shouldn’t have to touch the disconnect for the axle to slide out. I did the ball joints and hubs on my ‘14 a few years ago and did not have to touch the disconnect, the axle slid right out. However, last fall I changed the gears in the diffs and the passenger side axle would not come out. I fought it for a long time, nothing. I ended up pounding it out from the drivers side thru the pumpkin as I already had the front diff pulled out. That’s the only way it worked for me.
Also, to replace the drivers side axle seal, the carrier has to come out as the seal is put in from the inside.
 
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Says to shift it into 4WD prior to removal of the RH axle, or reinstall will be impacted.

Here are some sheets.

Also something on the Axle seals.

Kinda reminds me of the old Dana seals where you have inner and outer seals.
 

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That plastic piece is part of the axle seal, should probably replace the seal. You shouldn’t have to touch the disconnect for the axle to slide out. I did the ball joints and hubs on my ‘14 a few years ago and did not have to touch the disconnect, the axle slid right out. However, last fall I changed the gears in the diffs and the passenger side axle would not come out. I fought it for a long time, nothing. I ended up pounding it out from the drivers side thru the pumpkin as I already had the front diff pulled out. That’s the only way it worked for me.
Also, to replace the drivers side axle seal, the carrier has to come out as the seal is put in from the inside.
thank you, Yeah I guess for some reason the seals are stuck to axle shafts and going to come out with shaft. I have the seal tool for second gen, maybe ill get lucky a d it will be same diameter or same tool
 
Says to shift it into 4WD prior to removal of the RH axle, or reinstall will be impacted.

Here are some sheets.

Also something on the Axle seals.

Kinda reminds me of the old Dana seals where you have inner and outer seals.
thank you for the great information. I'll be going deeper I guess because the seals are coming out with shafts. To be fair the last time these shafts where out of this truck was nearly 150,000 miles ago.
 
yeah, so it stuck to the shaft and pulled seal out, same thing is probably happening on rh side
guess ill be pulling diff apart and installing some seals

The FSM mentions nothing about mandatory seal replacement, I'd put it back together like it is.
Don't fix what ain't broken.
As long as you don't go hard-core wheeling there will be no dirt in there to be kept away from that collar.
 
The FSM mentions nothing about mandatory seal replacement, I'd put it back together like it is.
Don't fix what ain't broken.
As long as you don't go hard-core wheeling there will be no dirt in there to be kept away from that collar.
those parts are definitely not intended to be stuck on shafts though. and there would be no way to reassemble as the seals and plastic dust cup must be installed down in tube before I can slide shafts in.
 
I now have RH side out and looking closer, that flange which is stuck on shaft looks like an inner race of a bearing? ill defiantly need to look over a parts break down to confirm all parts inside tubes. look at these pictures and see if you agree, inner race from bearing? it was not part of that black plastic cup/ dust shield.

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While you’re there, I would replace the bearing in the actuator housing. If you pull the carrier out, I would have a new crush sleeve and pinion seal on hand also.
 
Says to shift it into 4WD prior to removal of the RH axle, or reinstall will be impacted.

Here are some sheets.

Also something on the Axle seals.

Kinda reminds me of the old Dana seals where you have inner and outer seals.
these pages are extremely helpful and appreciated, any chance you know where to find a similar parts diagram for same axle? My searches are not finding anything where I can identify all the parts inside tubes.
 
Let me know which items you need and I'll post part numbers.

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thank you so much. Is this rh side only? maybe the left side would be simpler to figure out parts as it has much less going on. im having trouble figuring out which parts are actually which.
looking closer at my parts it seems like this flange that stuck on shafts might not have been an inner race like I first suspected. since it is not shaped like any bearing would have mated. it actually looks like a seal was making contact there. ill search more today for videos of seal replacement or any other related jobs so maybe I can see what parts are sitting where in these tubes. I miss my truck. lol 170k miles and I still love this thing.
 
update, Looking at everything I can find online and mostly with all the great help here It seems like this flange might actually be part of the outer axle seal after all. im going to try and confirm with a part in hand but getting much closer now. maybe its part number 9 in diagrams above. possibly this is the correct part
Axle Drive Shaft Seal - Mopar (05086686AB)
 
These numbers may have changed, but this is what's listed on the diagram:

  • #6 is 4137740AB Bushing, Axle Shaft
  • #7 is 4506005 Seal, Axle Drive Shaft
  • #9 is 4116366 Seal, Axle Drive Shaft
 
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