ZF Powerline for 2025 RAM HD Diesel

[NIsaacs]

I posted the link, for some reason the photo didn't work.

 

[Topzide]

I posted the link, for some reason the photo didn't work.

Gotta love when the tech doesn't work! Just like on our trucks.

 

[NIsaacs]

I think that started in ‘23, but maybe it was ‘24. Pretty sure I’ve seen it on the auto-level DRW’s too.

Yes, you are right. The link says fits '19-'25.

 

[NIsaacs]

My truck is built already, waiting shipping.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=3C63R5DL1SG566016

 

[petersonj]

My truck is built already, waiting shipping.

And you WILL keep us posted on how that trucks performs, right!? New truck owners have certain obligations, you know.

- John

 

[Diesel85]

@NIsaacs -- Nice choice on the white paint. Looks like a reasonable build. That would be what I'd build but in a 3500.

 

[Shiner]

I like how ram is adding in the $12595.00 for the h.o. Diesel engine when it is not an option and is in the main included features. $13k off immediately in the negotiation process. Funny observation on my part: my truck has 12600 miles today …..just like new. Towing duties going up later this year. Not going to need a new hd anytime soon.

 

[JR]

Very nice Nick! Happy for you.

 

[Ozymandias]

My truck is built already, waiting shipping.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=3C63R5DL1SG566016

Nice setup, all the goodies that make sense in my eyes.

 

[AH64ID]

I like how ram is adding in the $12595.00 for the h.o. Diesel engine when it is not an option and is in the main included features. $13k off immediately in the negotiation process. Funny observation on my part: my truck has 12600 miles today …..just like new. Towing duties going up later this year. Not going to need a new hd anytime soon.

Where do you see that the 6.7 is an “included feature”?

 

[Shiner]

Where do you see that the 6.7 is an “included feature”?

I am referring to the practice of listing the base price on the sticker with the engine/drivetrain. I know they have done this for years and is a pet peeve of mine, nothing more. $50+ grand for a truck with no drivetrain would be silly, now wouldn’t it? Base price should show for the model should reflect base engine , then they should list optional engine and price. Window stickers of yesteryear used to be broken down that way. Be critical all you want to but it is just a bit deceptive and the way that they have gotten away with vastly inflating prices. Nobody is losing any money by selling at 13k off msrp, period.

 

[petersonj]

I am referring to the practice of listing the base price on the sticker with the engine/drivetrain.

Are you referring to this on the same MSRP sheet?

Both places show the 6.7 I6 Cummins HO Turbo Diesel Engine.

Doesn't make sense to me. Almost sounds like a person could pay twice for the diesel.

- John

 

[AH64ID]

I am referring to the practice of listing the base price on the sticker with the engine/drivetrain. I know they have done this for years and is a pet peeve of mine, nothing more. $50+ grand for a truck with no drivetrain would be silly, now wouldn’t it? Base price should show for the model should reflect base engine , then they should list optional engine and price. Window stickers of yesteryear used to be broken down that way. Be critical all you want to but it is just a bit deceptive and the way that they have gotten away with vastly inflating prices. Nobody is losing any money by selling at 13k off msrp, period.

But the base price is with the base engine on that truck, the diesel isn’t the base engine.

Are you referring to this on the same MSRP sheet?

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Both places show the 6.7 I6 Cummins HO Turbo Diesel Engine.

The area between base price and standard equipment is “as-built” it’s not part of the standard equipment.

 

[Jaysyl]

I may have missed it, is there a 50 gallon fuel tank option for 2025. Previous years offered 50 gallon tank option on the long bed crew cab configuration.

 

[NIsaacs]

Sounds like 5-31 will be the last day to order an HD truck for '25. Pretty short season. I assume part of that reason is the move north.

 

[AH64ID]

I may have missed it, is there a 50 gallon fuel tank option for 2025. Previous years offered 50 gallon tank option on the long bed crew cab configuration.

Yes there is.

 

[Dl5treez]

Service costs are what they are; there are options out there much less than OEM that work similarly. DIY isn't too hard and transmission shops can do them much 'cheaper' than dealers, for what it's worth.

At any rate the ZF8 has been AMAZING in my PW. If the slushbox behind the diesels does as well it'll be interesting.

 

[Shiner]

The area between base price and standard equipment is “as-built” it’s not part of the standard equipment.[/QUOTE]
I am merely pointing out that window stickers used to be less confusing by listing base truck and features, then all options were listed and priced out accordingly. Let’s just say it this way, ram window stickers suck. Ford has a much cleaner, easy to follow, sticker lay out. I still negotiate up from the basement price(I am not worried about “offending” anybody or salesmen scoffing at my offers),not down from msrp.

 

[AH64ID]

I am merely pointing out that window stickers used to be less confusing by listing base truck and features, then all options were listed and priced out accordingly. Let’s just say it this way, ram window stickers suck. Ford has a much cleaner, easy to follow, sticker lay out. I still negotiate up from the basement price(I am not worried about “offending” anybody or salesmen scoffing at my offers),not down from msrp.

I don’t know about the Ram ones being confusing, they are laid out pretty simply and easy to read. Very similar to Ford, with only minor formatting differences.

The Ram sticker does exactly what you say they used to… so what exactly are you having difficulty with?

Seems like you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill on this.

 

[Grumpy8811]

one thing I know for sure is its never a good idea to show up at a dealer without already having a good idea what the real sales price is
as well as hiving your own financing
and never let them see you pull up in a Taxi