03 H.O. 6 Speed ,Barking in 6th gear, No Load, Stock HE341,BBI S .1s, No tuning

[Darkbloodmon]

Keep in mind we aren't in the truck with you, but, I am not convinced you are experiencing a turbo bark. It would make more sense if it did it in other gears at the same engine RPM. Possible the load on the engine is higher in 6th and you have boost creep from higher altitude. Did they suggest backing off the WG any? Lack of gauges would hold that suggestion back I expect. Again just a double check that you are going after the proper thing.

I used a Smarty Touch on my 2003 with the EGT probe for gauges.

The engine moves a lot in the mounts from full power to no power. For example another ride would make interesting noises as the cooling fan hit the trans cooler lines and shroud. It had a sagging engine mount.

I would go over the clamps and boots on the intake and intercooler. Just in case one blew out.

Tom S. from Turbo Resource said id have a definite waste gate issue if I experienced the bark in all gears, Wastegate position and lock nut are as they left them upon rebuild. He's not recommending any adjustments or further Diag. till I can get some numbers.

My altitude is 704' which isn't crazy by any means, I'll check all my clamps and see if I can post a recording. It doesn't sound like much else than a hallow cough or sneeze from the front passenger side resonating in the air intake tube.

How's your experience been on the Smarty? Are you using the Mads Touch? I'm really just looking for a monitor but when is anything not a compromise. I'm not liking the recent reviews on the CTS3 on tech/customer support, updates, and bricking.

 

[AH64ID]

Having run a MM3 and a CTS2 I much prefer the MM3, especially if custom tuning is in your future. It’s a better monitor.

 

[CVR222NV]

Update for the curious eyes following, After a few emails back and forth about my observations and symptoms with Tom S. From Turbo Resource, He's at a dead end on being able to diag. without any numbers. I've got to get gauges to do that.

Does anyone have any experience with an the Edge CTS3 on the older Pre-canbus trucks? I like the simplicity of the add on sensors and the modern data logging features. Also the idea of running lines over the engine bay and piggy backing isn't something I'm keen on as I clean up previous wiring. It'll get majority of the numbers I need from the OBDII port, Though I'll need to run an EAS for the EGT, Trans Temp, and potentially fuel pressure. I know it'll get rail pressure.

Figured I'd be at or near the same price point with the amount of gauges I'd be running; minus all the wiring and routing is a plus, and data collection would be a lot easier to organize as well. Thoughts?

I'm not sure my experience is what you are looking for as I have the original CTS for monitoring only. Conceptually a great idea. I expanded to oil pressure, fuel pressure, transmission, and rear end in addition to EGT. Worked great for a good period of time. Then I started getting unreliable readings on EGT's (like 100 degrees) and rear end temperature (stuck on 302 degrees on start up). Yes I updated the monitor to the latest software. I have taken it apart and cleaned. When I emailed Edge their only solution was to replace the the particular sensor on my dime. I'm moving to the MM3 platform and only wish it was expandable beyond EGT. I will keep the Edge CTS hooked up and run comparisons between the two platforms but as I understand it I cannot use an OBDII splitter.

 

[Darkbloodmon]

I'm not sure my experience is what you are looking for as I have the original CTS for monitoring only. Conceptually a great idea. I expanded to oil pressure, fuel pressure, transmission, and rear end in addition to EGT. Worked great for a good period of time. Then I started getting unreliable readings on EGT's (like 100 degrees) and rear end temperature (stuck on 302 degrees on start up). Yes I updated the monitor to the latest software. I have taken it apart and cleaned. When I emailed Edge their only solution was to replace the the particular sensor on my dime. I'm moving to the MM3 platform and only wish it was expandable beyond EGT. I will keep the Edge CTS hooked up and run comparisons between the two platforms but as I understand it I cannot use an OBDII splitter.

Thanks for the feedback, I'm leaning more to an MM3 and 1 or 2 analogs then. I don't want to have hardware or support issues long-term after dropping that kind of change.

 

[Darkbloodmon]

Having run a MM3 and a CTS2 I much prefer the MM3, especially if custom tuning is in your future. It’s a better monitor.

Could you explain the MM3 Hardware and software products? What component list am I looking at if I'm wanting all access to my ECM? I know I need the MM3 tuner, but between UDC and UDC pro and supporting adapters and hardware what's needed?

With my Experience from HPTuners it was MPVI2 the hardware, VCM scanner (monitor, logger), VCM editor(writing), and License credits for the vin. Get the credits and hardware and you have all access as any professional tuner would.

I don't want to buy a brick that duals as a monitor with mass produced tunes and locked features only a professional has access to.

All this tuning talk is much later down the line till I get my truck back to square one; but since the MM3 monitors PIDs as well, for the price I want to make sure it's a worthwhile investment for future plans.

 

[Tuesdak]

How's your experience been on the Smarty?

I know this as the MADS Smarty Touch that can use UDC. I had a custom tune written for my truck that above all kept the damn smoke down. Nothing like wiping the soot off the toilet seat in the RV you are pulling! There is enough acronyms being thrown around on here that it makes my head hurt. Needs to be clarified if it's all the same or different.

Now I pushed the Smarty Touch to it's limits and had them correct their range of warning pressures for the high side of the AC system. I diagnosed a failing slow to respond fan clutch with it and other stuff. It would alarm for me on high EGT. Have a look at my screen setup and what I did with it below. I also put a coating on the AC condenser and posted the improvements.

https://www.turbodieselregister.com...rams-ecm-defect-opening-the-ac-relief.258779/

 

[AH64ID]

Could you explain the MM3 Hardware and software products? What component list am I looking at if I'm wanting all access to my ECM? I know I need the MM3 tuner, but between UDC and UDC pro and supporting adapters and hardware what's needed?

With my Experience from HPTuners it was MPVI2 the hardware, VCM scanner (monitor, logger), VCM editor(writing), and License credits for the vin. Get the credits and hardware and you have all access as any professional tuner would.

I don't want to buy a brick that duals as a monitor with mass produced tunes and locked features only a professional has access to.

All this tuning talk is much later down the line till I get my truck back to square one; but since the MM3 monitors PIDs as well, for the price I want to make sure it's a worthwhile investment for future plans.

The MM3 is the same basic hardware as the Smarty Touch but comes with a ComMod and no basic tunes. It can had a pyro added to it, and uses the OBDII for the rest of its sensors.

The primary tuning platform for the 5.9 is UDC Pro, which is designed around HPCR Cummins tuning. Aside from the performance tables it also has access to a lot of other tables that improve the day to day drivability, such as fan and grid heater programming.

With just the MM3 anyone who has a UDC Pro Dongle can write you a tune, or you can buy your own and tune yourself.

2 pieces of hardware are all that's needed to write your own tunes, UDC Pro is free to download and you can use it in a trial mode to see what you think of it.

PM me if you're interested in any pricing.

 

[Darkbloodmon]

I have another observation I noticed today. Keep in mind im unloaded and at an elevation of 704'.

My Rpms feel and look a bit down, not as drastic as a gear ratio change in the final drive but I find the tach digging a bit more from the up shift from 5th to 6th this is where I hear the bark. I'm keeping an eye on the coolant level, topped off today was a little down from the max (1/2"). No external known leaks after I resealed the water pump.

What mph/rpm range by gear is considered lugging? My driving habits haven't changed but upshifts have alot more grunt from the needle dive in all gears, more noticeably from 5th to 6th.

What are the chances a blown head gasket on a near stock application 5.9 CR is the source of my problems? I want to do a block test and at the same time I don't.

 

[Darkbloodmon]

Long follow up

I would go over the clamps and boots on the intake and intercooler. Just in case one blew out.

it can have something to do with exhaust flow too..

Good call, It was either an exhaust leak or a boost leak. Still not sure which but something came loose at some point.

I installed new OEM clamps for the whole turbo assembly while my truck was inoperable earlier this year. Today I drove a highway loop and had no bark in 6th no matter how hard I let off. The only sound was the wastegate.