05 Ctd 48re Transmission Out

[byoslandry]

Fellow TDR Members

Yesterday, my brother calls me and says his 2005 CTD truck will not move. No warning other than a little noise right before it broke at 17,000 miles - 48re transmission kaput.

He had the truck towed to the dealer to have them fix it under the original warranty.

This truck has only pulled a light weight 20' Outback travel trailer for a week a year and has also pulled his 18' boat with no strain, no sweat.

So, it's a mystery as to why this transmission gave up so early as the truck has never been abused in any way.

I'll post again on what the dealer finds.

Love the engine, but wondering about the transmissions now.

Anybody have any similiar circumstances????

Byron

 

[BHolm]

The most obvious first question is... was the truck stock or modified? I've had four trucks with the 48re. Two of them work trucks that were permenantly hooked to heavy trailers and hauled max loads daily. My '03 QC did kill a 48re but not until 67k miles of hard work. The problem was a failed fan cluth that caused the trans to overheat,and according to the drivers the trans temp light never came on.



My dually is just shy of 100k and it towed its whole life until I recently took it for personal use. Never any trans problms, none with my '05 I put 35k on and none with the '06 Mega at 25k. The 48re is the least troublesome auto transmission behind a diesel right now. They are pretty durable until you start pushing a bunch of extra power through them.

 

[SGinder]

My trans starting acting up last January during really cold weather. I had just returned home and parked it when I heard some weird clicking noises by the turbo side of the engine. Two hours later,it finally would move... ..... very long ,irradict shifting mind you. It turned out to be the trans shifting module. The electric motor had failed at 23K miles. I also had only performed what I consider "light" towing(Bumper hitch 12K tandem trailer 7-8 times short distance of 60-75 miles. I believe this to be just a fluke issue, things happen. Otherwise, I really enjoy this combo compared to my old truck and other brands that I have driven(Ford powerjoke)

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'05 3500 QC SWB 4WD(manual shift) 3:73, Predator(80HP/110Lb)

Previously '01 2500 QC SWB 4WD ,HD Transfer case. Stock.

 

[byoslandry]

05 CTD 48RE Transmission Kaput

BHolms

Thanks for all responses. I did forget to mention that my brother's truck is stock with no modifications what so ever. Not even gauges.

It's a 2005 CTD QC LWB with the 325 hp 610 ft lb engine and 48RE transmission in it with a 3. 73 rear end. Only 17,000 miles on the ticker.

He has had absolutely no problems with the truck until the transmission decided not to move. There were no oil leaks, no dashboard lights. NOTHING to indicate it was going to break. We hope it's a simple fix... .

I asked him if the fan clutch was working and he thought so. We'll just have to wait to see what the dealer finds.

He also mentioned that Dodge's dealer tow if you break down under warranty is free for the 1st 12 miles only. Our dealer is about 55 miles away.

Byron

 

[DPKetchum]

Is suppose to be free to the NEAREST dealer. Never heard of a 12 mile limint. Call D. C. 1-800-992-1997 and ask about reimbursment etc.

 

[CTDFreak]

I'm posting because I want to keep track of what the dealer says.

 

[byoslandry]

BHolms

Thanks for all responses. I did forget to mention that my brother's truck is stock with no modifications what so ever. Not even gauges.

It's a 2005 CTD QC LWB with the 325 hp 610 ft lb engine and 48RE transmission in it with a 3. 73 rear end. Only 17,000 miles on the ticker.

He has had absolutely no problems with the truck until the transmission decided not to move. There were no oil leaks, no dashboard lights. NOTHING to indicate it was going to break. We hope it's a simple fix... .

I asked him if the fan clutch was working and he thought so. We'll just have to wait to see what the dealer finds.

He also mentioned that Dodge's dealer tow if you break down under warranty is free for the 1st 12 miles only. Our dealer is about 55 miles away.

Byron

UPDATE ON FAILED 48RE TRANSMISSION

The delaer drove my brother's truck for two days and could not make the transmission act up again. My brother asked the dealer to at least drop the pan and check for metal shavings because of the noise he heard when the transmission stopped working.

The dealer said they would do that IF he paid for a service job. My brother declined since the truck was in warranty. The dealer told him to use the truck and if it occurs again to tow the truck in again. My brother's response was "If you're not willing to take the pan off and look for metal shavings, than I'm not going to pay for another tow to you. Then I will drive it in to you in whatever gear I can get it to move. Maybe it'll break all together so you'll have to drop the pan. "

The truck did drive home without incident. Go figure. But I'm sure this saga will play out sooner or later.

I'll keep all you guys posted whenever something happens.

Byron

 

[FATCAT]

UPDATE ON FAILED 48RE TRANSMISSION

The delaer drove my brother's truck for two days and could not make the transmission act up again. My brother asked the dealer to at least drop the pan and check for metal shavings because of the noise he heard when the transmission stopped working.

The dealer said they would do that IF he paid for a service job. My brother declined since the truck was in warranty. The dealer told him to use the truck and if it occurs again to tow the truck in again. My brother's response was "If you're not willing to take the pan off and look for metal shavings, than I'm not going to pay for another tow to you. Then I will drive it in to you in whatever gear I can get it to move. Maybe it'll break all together so you'll have to drop the pan. "

The truck did drive home without incident. Go figure. But I'm sure this saga will play out sooner or later.

I'll keep all you guys posted whenever something happens.

Byron

This sure seems to be the new Dodge dealer attitude ... screw the customer at every turn NO MATTER WHAT. Makes me wonder why people still buy DC products any more. This is friggen sad.

 

[CStraface]

We need Cummins direct services. Screw Dodge dealers. Ok, so maybe we are all a little paranoid when it comes to our CTD's. But lets be honest, we know are trucks, and we know noises and actions when he hear, see, and feel them. I can't believe that every time, the dealer always says the same thing... . "Found nothing. " Happens again bring it back. " What a joke.

 

[DPKetchum]

There ALL the same. I bet the BIG truck buyers say the same about the Cummins dealer. All business is chasing the dollar with a new level of cheapness. Use to be dime and quarter managers. Now its penny and nickel. ONE napkin,no spoons at resturants and the list goes on and on. Heck I get nasty looks cause I want WATER with my meal. YEP thats right lady I said NO TEA!

 

[PGreenleaf]

I'm guessing here but I'll bet something lodged under a valve in the valve body. Got flushed away in all the towing starting etc.

Considering a noise was heard dealer was nuts not to drop pan at least and look.

 

[DPKetchum]

All he had to do was write it up for something simple/trans releated(pan gasket seepage/old code for solonoids etc. ) and state for customer statisfaction and THEY would have made a nickel and YOU would be happier. The PEN can be mighty if you use your BRAIN. Reps you to know and APPROVE of such to make a customer happy and do a little diagnosing

 

[BHolm]

It certainly isn't just Dodge. On my previous '03 Isuzumax/Allison truck the transmission fluid was burnt black at 25k miles. I had it flushed and the external filter replaced. A few thousand miles down the road and the fluid was again black. The dealer said nothing was wrong. GM "customer service" wanted to do a flush without changing the filter(s) since the external one had been replaced so recently. I had read on the GM diesel site that somebody had good luck replacing the pan filter and external spin on filter when flushing the trans. This is what I wanted GM to pay for. They fought with me for over a week, trying to avoid a $100 service on a several thousand dollar transmission. They finally gave in and did the service. I promptly traded for the '05 CTD. GM "customer service" called back a few days later to ask if I was happy with the resolution, I told them I was very happy with my new Dodge and wouldn't be buying any more trucks from them based on the horriffic "service" they provided.



Call DC customer service, get a regional rep involved. Get it resolved to your satisfaction. Find a new dealer, one with a brain. Good Luck

 

[jsimpson]

Toyota is no better!

My Tundra flashed some Emissions codes including o2 sensor. I took it in. They shoved a loose hose back on said the codes were gone and charged me $126. The hose came loose again on the way home. I replaced the hose because it was rotted. I scanned and got one of the same codes that it had when I took it in (o2 sensor). I contacted the dealer and Toyota USA and complained that because the hose was bad it should have been covered under warranty. The dealer refused and Toyota USA said "we're sorry but the dealer refuses to reimburse you. " Phillips Toyota in Leesburg Florida is NOT a place to deal with, and Toyota USA is useless. I've had much better service from Dodge than from Toyota.

 

[DPKetchum]

There ALL the same. Take the Toyo,G. M. Dodge or whoever folks and swap them from manufacture customer service down to dealer level and except for what they call things and a few minor differances they'd be NO differance. They could swap and be up to speed and running the same in days or a few SHORT weeks. When I did G. M. OLDSMOBLE tech assistance was a CUSTOMER PAY phone call for the dealers. No 1800 number and THEY had a ATTITUDE to US. I thought what the hell. Surly engineers etc. It came from the TOP down. No wonder they went away. Buick now was real user friendly and WE wern't a Buick dealer! G. M. operated in the late 80s/early 90s like they were as far removed from each other as Toyo and Honda.

 

[dlmartin]

Had a similar situation with my 05 48RE, I really can't explain the connection, but a growling or grinding noise came from the trans. at the same time the red brake light and yellow ABS light were on. has happened twice, have had no brake issues, could be some electrical glitz? Has happened twice, seems to work fine other times except for the sloppy linkage and wrong gear indicated on column. I have avoided the buzzer recall to "fix" that!

 

[pservano]

This sure seems to be the new Dodge dealer attitude ... screw the customer at every turn NO MATTER WHAT. Makes me wonder why people still buy DC products any more. This is friggen sad.

This is true. I really despise the Dodge dealer attitude. I brought in my truck to Greenbrier Dodge VA, for a parking light indicator not lit while tuck is park and unexplained increase of engine oil in the truck. When I told the service advisor that I have to drain some of the oil because the level was beyond the dipstick mark. She told me that if I have to leave it alone and threaten me with voiding the warranty. They could not explained the cause of high level though. I wish Toyota come up with a Diesel (1) ton truck!

 

[CPittman]

pservano, If your truck is 'making oil' you may have a cracked or stuck injector. I would change the oil immediately and have the dealer check it out. Great way to kill all your bearing surfaces due to diminished lubricity.



Whatever you do, don't blow it off - get it checked - after you change the oil.