05 Dodge 5.9L - Oil analysis

[KTenney]

Any thoughts on how this looks?



Miles on truck... ... ... 160,000

Miles on oil... ... ... ... 3,653

Oil... ... ... ... ... ... ... . Delo 15W-40 400 LE



Parameter... ... . Universal Average 3,653miles... . UOA Results

Aluminum... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 3... ... ... ... ... ... ... 5

Chromium... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 2... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2

Iron... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 23... ... ... ... ... ..... 33

Copper... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 4... ... ... ... ... ... ... 6

Lead... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 2... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2

Tin... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . 1... ... ... ... ... ... ... 0

Molybdenum... ... ... ... ... ..... 27... ... ... ... ... ..... 74

Nickel... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . 0... ... ... ... ... ... ... 0

Manganese... ... ... ... ... ... ... . 0... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1

Silver... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . 0... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1

Titanium... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 0... ... ... ... ... ... ... 0

Potassium... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 4... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2

Boron... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 80... ... ... ... ... ..... 389

Silicon... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 7... ... ... ... ... ... ... 6

Sodium... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 4... ... ... ... ... ... ... 3

Calcuim... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 2733... ... ... ... ... ... 1975

Magnesium... ... ... ... ... ..... 244... ... ... ... ... ... . 447

Phosphorous... ... ... ... ... ... 1079... ... ... ... ... ... . 1123

Zinc... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1270... ... ... ... ... ... 1465

Barium... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 1... ... ... ... ... ... ..... 0



SUS vis at 210 F... ... ... ... 69 to 78... ... ... ... ... ... 75. 1

cSt at 100 C... ... ... ... ... . 12. 7-15. 3... ... ... ... ..... 14. 29

Flashpoint... ... ... ... ... ..... >405... ... ... ... ... ... ... 420

Fuel... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..... <2 %... ... ... ... ... ..... <0. 5

Antifreeze... ... ... ... ... ... ... . 0%... ... ... ... ... ... ... . 0

Water... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... <0. 1 %... ... ... ... ... ... . 0

Insolubles... ... ... ... ... ... ... <0. 8... ... ... ... ... ..... 0. 3



Report read:

Showing some excess wear at steel parts at the time sample was taken. Universal averages show normal wear for the Cummins 6 BT 5. 9L after 6,850 miles of oil use. This oil was in use just 3,653 miles and iron read at 33ppm. That shows excess wear from either cylinders, rotating shafts, parts in the valve train or a combination of all three. Other wear metal were okay. No containments were found. Try ~4000 miles on the new fill then check back to monitor iron wear.



Thanks,

David

 

[steved]

Resample as they said... a single analysis doesn't really tell you much.

 

[JamesStevens]

Your Silicon levels are higher then mine, mine are usually 3ppm

My last Iron level was 25ppm, the one before that was 35ppm.

I wouldn't worry about it to much

 

[RonD]

How did you do the oil sample?, it should be done with warm oil, take the sample just after turning off the engine, drain half the oil from the pan, then take the sample at the half way point so all the materials are not sampled at the bottom of the pan.

 

[KTenney]

The oil was not fully warmed, but the sample was taken mid way thru the oil draining process.

 

[NavyDood]

My oil sample I just got back a week ago was right on par with what your results were. Only thing is, I had 28,000 miles on the oil and no bypass system. I run Amsoil AME 15w-40 and the Amsoil oil filter. I did have abnormally high numbers on copper and potassium. Been this way for 53,000 miles. I need to get around to changing my oil cooler one of these days I guess.

 

[carl07230]

How do you get an anylysis done and where do you send it too?

 

[flyby night]

I have a truck where I work that has 2300 engine hours on the oil which is equivalent to about 100k miles. The oil used is Lubrication engineers 15w-40 and it is not synthetic. The results from the oil analysis were better than the results you posted with the exception of the lead. In this particular truck the lead was at 30 ppm.

I noticed there was no tbn result in your oil report. Who do you use for oil analysis? To me tbn is another key indicator of the health of the oil.

What are your driving habits? Is the 3653 miles all in town short trips? This can have a huge effect on your oil and analysis results.

 

[KTenney]

I have a truck where I work that has 2300 engine hours on the oil which is equivalent to about 100k miles. The oil used is Lubrication engineers 15w-40 and it is not synthetic. The results from the oil analysis were better than the results you posted with the exception of the lead. In this particular truck the lead was at 30 ppm.



I noticed there was no tbn result in your oil report. Who do you use for oil analysis? To me tbn is another key indicator of the health of the oil.



What are your driving habits? Is the 3653 miles all in town short trips? This can have a huge effect on your oil and analysis results.

Blackstone Labs



Driving 30% city empty and 70% towing 18K with interstate and some city.

 

[Bekim]

Wow 28,000 miles on your oil! What kind of particle count numbers do you have at that many miles? Would you mind sharing your oil report?
Mike
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My oil sample I just got back a week ago was right on par with what your results were. Only thing is, I had 28,000 miles on the oil and no bypass system. I run Amsoil AME 15w-40 and the Amsoil oil filter. I did have abnormally high numbers on copper and potassium. Been this way for 53,000 miles. I need to get around to changing my oil cooler one of these days I guess.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I'm puzzled at your Molybdenum, Boron and Zinc numbers - it was my understanding that those elements had been either removed from the LE DELO, or at least substantially reduced - your numbers look lots closer to CI than CJ based LE lube...

 

[NavyDood]

Here are my results. Like I said, I know my copper and potassium are abnormal. This oil change was better than the last. last time the copper was a bit higher but potassium was way lower. I really need to change the oil cooler. Nothing visually wrong though with the oil or coolant. This is one of those times that having an analysis done shows hidden problems.

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[Bekim]

Thanks NavyDood. Interesting report! I'd love to see the particulates count for oil with that many miles and no secondary filtratrion

 

[NavyDood]

It's on there. It is the soot. <. 1% The above analysis was my 2010 analysis. Here is my 2011 analysis with 27,600 miles on the oil. In approximately 800 miles it will be time to do my 2012 analysis. All of this is just with a single full flow Amsoil EaO80 oil filter the whole time and I still haven't changed the oil cooler.

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[Bekim]

I agree with steved, a streak thru speck can cause high readings on one sample. A rogue bit of whatever that let's say gets caught up in a bearing for a short time, can cause an abnormally high reading one time