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Hey Guys:

Thought I'd check in here with all of you. It's time for a headlight upgrade on my 2005 3500. I've been running a Brite Box / Fogster upgrade for many years but the Brite Box has failed so it's time to do something about it.

Additionally, I want to install new headlight housings, my original housing are really clouded up and they will not buff out.

Any ideas on upgrades other than replacing the Brite Box? .... Thanks for your responses
 
I'm interested in the recommendations as I went with aftermarket factory style housings and supposedly quality LED headlights and have been very disappointed.

The light performance has been great, but they cause terrible radio interference even after several attempts to mitigate and I have a reoccurring lamp out warning on the dash that goes away by cycling the lights on and off. Both issues, the seller touts as not being a problem with their product.
 
Ozy,

Did you send them your headlights to modify or did they supply the headlights? If they supplied, how was the fit and finish? Which options did you choose? Can you post a picture of yours.

Thanks,
Marty
 
Ozy,

Did you send them your headlights to modify or did they supply the headlights? If they supplied, how was the fit and finish? Which options did you choose? Can you post a picture of yours.

Thanks,
Marty

Hi, I ordered with new housings. He is using TYC units for it.
I used the most basic shrouds in it to look very much OEM but have choosen the 50watt HIDs.
Just to mention it, they use the European light pattern, means you see farther in low beam then with a domestic symmetrical light.

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Thanks for the pictures. Yes, I like it looking as close to stock as possible.

Did you lose your high beams?
 
That's good that you still have the high beams. Looking at your pictures again, the gap between the body and headlight housing looks good on those TYC units.
 
Ozymandias, I just picked up a set of these and will be installing soon. Would you mind sharing where you mounted the relays and other components that come with these lights? Maybe also how you routed the wiring? Thanks
 
Just behind the light assembly is a frame rail of the cab, i fixed all the stuff to the side of that rail.
It is easy accessible with the plastic wheel well taken off.
 
I wanted to follow up just to let all those who follow on what I did. I've decided to stay with the Brite-Box FLC. I choose this route because it was a known result as I've had the Brite-Box upgrade on my truck since 2010. I also like the fog light assist when the high beams are engaged.

The HID upgrade (mentioned above) was an unknown to me so I decided to stay with the known quantity. I also went with the Extreme-Vision bulb upgrade. I ended up contacting Automotive Lighting Products in regards to the bulb and housing upgrade, here's what he/they had to say

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Oct 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Hi, Carl. Thanks for writing.

First: I hope you and yours are safe and well.

Now:

> Hi, I'm looking to upgrade the headlights on my 2005 RAM 3500. I'd
> like to get the brightest bulbs possible.

Before picking bulbs, Take a hard and critical look at the headlamps
themselves; when plastic headlamp lenses are yellowed or clouded or
fogged, it's really time to replace the lamps with new ones—most
headlamps do not have replaceable lenses, though a few of them do. There
are various polishing/restoration kits and techniques, none of which
will do anything but postpone your need to install new headlamps (until
even that stops working) because "polishing" the headlamps strips off
the anti-UV/anti-scratch hardcoat that was applied and crosslink-cured
under cleanroom conditions when the lamps were manufactured. With this
coating gone, the surface degradation will come back faster and worse
than before, and the polycarbonate itself will progressively break down.

Many of the kits contain what they call a coating, lotion, wax,
protectant, sunscreen or other such; none of these does much of anything
to slow or stop the degradation, because there is really no
field-applicable coating that can duplicate the factory coating's
performance (which itself is inadequate to the task, as a walk through
any parking lot shows—the regulations are too lax).

If you need to buy some time and try to renew plastic lenses that aren't
severely hazed, try the technique at http://goo.gl/1VEuus .(or swap out
the brush-on stuff they used for 2-part/catalyzed clear in a spray can,
Amazon product ASIN B0043B7UQY ).

But even without haze, really look closely at the lenses. Cracks and
holes are obvious enough, but the pitting/sandblasting that accumulates
over the years on glass and plastic lenses alike worsens headlight
performance much more than might seem obvious.

And even if the lenses look nice, they're not the only part of the
headlamp that ages badly. Headlamp reflectors are shiny by dint of a
super-thin layer of vapor-deposited aluminum with a super-thin
protective clear topcoat. With years of headlamp usage the topcoat
eventually breaks down and allows the aluminum to begin oxidizing.
Optical degradation of the reflector is severely advanced well before
you can see it with the naked eye—which you sometimes can't; on some
lamps the reflector is not visible clearly, or at all. But hidden or
not, looking at it wouldn't do you much good; by the time the reflector
has degraded enough to be described as "just a little imperfect" the
lamp is past dead. For mental calibration on this point: even the most
costly, beautiful chrome plating, the kind that makes bumpers look 10
feet deep on a show car, is only about 67% reflective. That's not nearly
good enough for optical purposes; an as-new headlamp reflector is over
99% reflective, and there is no bulb that can compensate.

Another note about the (hidden) reflectors in projector-type lamps: when
the reflectors roast, the result is a correctly-shaped beam pattern but
without much light in it.

Replacement headlamps, if you're due, need to be made by the original
supplier (genuine Chrysler Mopar parts
Amazon product ASIN B007O3AA06 and
Amazon product ASIN B007O3AAEM ) if possible,
because all of the aftermarket off-brand items—TYC, Depo, DJAuto, Eagle
Eye, Helix, Anzo, 1AAuto, and a long list of others—are of much poorer
quality, performance, and durability despite bogus claims like "OEM
quality" and "SAE/DOT approved", and nice-sounding but empty,
practically meaningless ones like "CAPA certified" and "NSF certified".
This is the case whether they're lookalikes of the originals or restyled
units with halo rings, LEDs, blackout, projectors, or whatever. It's
worth a careful look at your present headlamps, too, in case the vehicle
received aftermarket replacement headlamps sometime in the past.

If genuine headlamps aren't in the budget for this car, or they're no
longer available, then it'll take some careful, choosy shopping to pick
out the best of the aftermarket lamps. I'm happy to help in detail with
that on request.

With preferably-genuine headlamps in perfect condition, then comes time
to pick bulbs. Each headlamp takes one 9007 bulb. The best 9007 bulbs
presently on the market are the Philips Xtreme Vision:
Amazon product ASIN B00U1OLNUG

Do not buy blue or "extra white" bulbs (Silver Star, Crystal Vision,
TruView, Hoen, PIAA, etc.); despite the heavy advertising push and
claims of "brighter and whiter" light, they actually produce _less_
light due to the blue glass they use. Also, the "LED bulbs" and "HID
kits" all over the place are fraudulent, unsafe, and illegal; steer clear.

New lamps or old, new bulbs or old, Lamp aim is by far the main thing
that determines how well you can (or can't) see at night with any given
set of lamps, so this is crucial: you will need to see to it that the
lamps are aimed carefully and correctly per the "VOR" instructions at
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html .

Cheers DS

I ended up just getting the new (after-market) housings from Geno's. If I would have went with the OEM housings the overall cost of the headlight upgrade would have been on par with the HID upgrade from the Retro-Shop ($675 plus).
 
:D Ozy, I have no doubt those are great lights and if I ever have to replace the whole light I will purchase them on your recommendation. However, I am pot committed to a set of upgraded bulbs that are working great for me and for $20 to try to restore the lenses I figure what do I have to loose. This will be one of my January projects.
 
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