I don't know if Frahm Dodge still has any, but they had five of the same trucks as topcat posted for Glen Thomas Dodge. Glen Thomas has a good reputation and they repaired my 92 Dakota under warranty in 92, when I used to work for the Long Beach Naval Station. They do have several 4500's W/bed @ 35K which is a good price. I paid 48K Out The Door, for my 07 3500 C&C W/O bed and 58K total price with my B&W Elite Series Flat Bed. Of coarse that is a fully loaded SLT QC 4X4 with Nav Sat & U-connect, so that is a good deal for that 4500.