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Talked to my dealer yesterday, and I can not even put a Transmission Temp, or EGT gauge on my truck... . might/could void my warranty:mad:

What they told me is I could and probably get away with it, BUT if any thing went wrong and they had to call the regional warranty person in and they saw it they could void it. Over a simple couple of gauges so you can take better care of you truck. #@$%!
 
Hmmmmmm Down here the Dodge dealer sent out flyers to his Dodge truck customers... Removing factory muffler or altering exhaust,drilling and tapping exmanifold and bunch of other things was a no no... lets face it,do you realize how much money they can save by voiding a warrenty?I was thinking about buying a new truck before the year change,but when you hear storys about a 3 gens engine going down at 20,000 miles and they put the fellow in a Recon engine... . I could go on about a gasser but i'm not... ...
 
I AM a machinest, I can'lt speel it, but I are one :-laf



Sorry, had to say that. That is an age old joke in my circles. For years we would see impressive resumes, and then on the application, the "job applied for" was a "machinest"
 
I AM a machinest, I can'lt speel it, but I are one :-laf



Sorry, had to say that. That is an age old joke in my circles. For years we would see impressive resumes, and then on the application, the "job applied for" was a "machinest"



Maybe should be Mac-hinest?
 
first of all they have to prove an aftermarket part caused whatever the problem is before they can void your warrenty. you know this really gets me all the people on here say you should take responsiblility for you actions if you use power enhancing products but at the same time just cause you put an attitude on your truck and then your injectors fail at 6000 miles doesnt mean it was the attitudes fault. I have a brand new 06 1500miles just rolled today completely stock done had a transmission code set and now it smokes like all hell when i start it up and idles like sh-t. Now i am gonna have to spend the next week fighting with the dealer to fix my problem. The first thing he is gonna say is you got bad fuel and there is nothing wrong with the truck i am gonna take it home and the next cold start its gonna white smoke like hell. then i am gonna bring it back prolly cuss alil and they might fix the problem then while i am driving around in a chevy caviler are something similar and the only reason i will get that is because i got an extended warrenty. So to everyone who takes up for the dealers i wish you was in my shoes now and hats off to everyone who has been in my shoes.

not to mention if there isnt a code set then my dealer thinks there is nothing wrong with the truck and cant figure out the problem unless the computer does it for them

sorry so long just venting
 
Talked to my dealer yesterday, and I can not even put a Transmission Temp, or EGT gauge on my truck... . might/could void my warranty:mad:

What they told me is I could and probably get away with it, BUT if any thing went wrong and they had to call the regional warranty person in and they saw it they could void it. Over a simple couple of gauges so you can take better care of you truck. #@$%!



I'm not sure I understand what they are trying to tell you. I would have sworn you could get a transmission line at the dealer that had a temp probe port in it? And I thought the exhaust brake had a port on it for a EGT probe? Will they drill the manifold for you?



Cclark, I think experiences can vary widely from dealer to dealer. You might want to "dealer shop" to find one that you like so you might be able to enjoy the peace of mind the extended warranty is supposed to give you.



I can't believe that I'm the only person that feels like they would be treated fairly by their dealership.
 
I guess I've been lucky so far. I have 67,000 miles and have a pyro and boost gage since about 12,000 miles. I have a Quad installed, Pac Brake, PSM air box and a MBRP turbo back 4" exhaust. I've been to the dealer for all my service work. Had it in twice for non-scheduled warranty service, and I have never had an issue. My service advisor knows what I use this truck for, and I have never had to have the dreaded "your warranty is void" talk with him.



I have never tried to hide the upgrades on my truck and if I had a problem that I felt was caused by any of my mods, I'd not complain if I had to pay. After all, I am my own warranty station.



Business is getting tight, and I am sure some dealers are beginning to feel the pinch and are doind what they can to control costs. I am sure some are going overboard, though.



Knock on wood, I'll be OK until the 100k mile expires on my power train (about 1½ years, and I'll be there).



???



Juan
 
I have gauges to MONITOR what's up with my truck's performance. If gauges had any relativity to causing FAILURE then all the big rigs would not have them as standard equipment. Dodge puts them in their Freightliners, so, what's the issue? I can see where they might be able to refuse you an exhaust manifold if it cracked where the pyro was installed, but to void your whole warranty - get real. It is against the law in all states to void an entire warranty when something installed causes something to fail, they can only void the part involved and they have to prove it caused the failure.



As far as what that specific dealer told you, ask them to put that statement in writing on their letterhead for you OR give you something in writing from DC that makes that statement. I bet you will very quickly get a retraction. If they do put it in writing, send a copy to DC and ask them WHAT'S UP WITH THIS? Your manual, your sales contract, nothing says any of that nonsense AND they cannot change the warranty rules as the go to suit their own purpose and design. If they want to play the game that way, then you are entitled to money back equal to the value of the warranty on your truck. Start chattering in that direction, get their attention. How much do you suppose is rolled up in the price of the truck for warranty coverages? You could make them give mfg cost accounting details via a lawsuit and also make them refund the value. That HAS happened already, DC has paid out several claims in that direction, and also has just reinstated warranties when it came down to the wire. As far as some regional rep having the power to just void a warranty, there is always someone higher up, and I would certainy take a trip up the ladder if someone tried to pull that on me.



My dealerhip questioned my gauges, I asked them if there was a problem, they said no. They also said that the installation was impeckable down to every detail. That told me they really took a close look, or were looking for something. My only comment to them was - these trucks are having some problems with EGT's in the #5 and #6 cyls, dropped valves, burn't pistons, etc, I want to be SURE about the operating temps, I haul animals and do not want to be sitting alongside the road BECAUSE I did not see a problem coming. I went on to tell them that I also knew that these trucks were having problems with fuel pressure, so the fuel pressure gauge was there to monitor the fuel presssure, same for the rail pressure gauge. I also told them they could see more gauges regarding transmission temp, diff temps, and anything else I might desire to monitor. I installed a GDP 2-micron fuel filter - once again they said something. I told them that ultimately GM and BOSCH recommended the 2-microns to stop the cavitation problems from junk in the fuel. Since DC has only recently changed to 7-microns and it is KNOWN that 2-microns is better, I thought the filter would be the better answer regarding the injector problems BECAUSE it would solve it from the fuel angle, only thing left in any injector argument is just the injector and then it should NOT be a warranty issue. Now I have installed an oil bypass filter, I suppose I will have to also explain that to them too. Fact is, all that I have done to my truck is with PREVENTION in mind. There are thousands of trucks with all this stuff on them having NO problems whatsoever and in fact this stuff has helped to diagnose a problem long before it has caused serious damage, so it ultimately will save them in warrnaty overhead.



You just have to have your facts in order, your arguments in order, and when all else fails you, change dealers, contact DC in writing with a registered letter, or get a lawyer. You are making payments or have paid for the truck, it is you property, you have a warranty that clearly states the terms, don't be afraid to exercise your rights to choose those things that you would like to install in your truck for your own information or pleasures.



CD
 
My dealer installed my guages, true flow intake, exhaust, shocks, tires,... before i picked up my truck..... they also do "superchips"... but they do have a disclaimer that it (superchips) can void your warranty if there are issues.
 
CD that is what I kinda thought and was wanting to see what kind of reaction I would get from others. EGT gauge, manafold cracks its my problem, all the other senders should not create a problem. What I am looking at installing is the Quadzilla Control System, with A pillar mount.
 
Talked to my dealer yesterday, and I can not even put a Transmission Temp, or EGT gauge on my truck... . might/could void my warranty:mad:

What they told me is I could and probably get away with it, BUT if any thing went wrong and they had to call the regional warranty person in and they saw it they could void it. Over a simple couple of gauges so you can take better care of you truck. #@$%!



You know what this is why I don't give a dern for the DC warranty and do just about everything myself. I never rebuilt a transmission by myself nor pulled it out from start to finish (just bits in pieces until I was given a bigger customers job at the shop I used to work at), guess what I took my transmission out all by myself in 4. 5 hours (used to take the shop 4 hrs with 2 techs) and i tore it apart, figured it out, and am waiting on parts. It really is not that complicated and all I have is a parts diagram and some common sense.



BUT IN RELATION TO YOUR PROBLEM: DC is the most retarded company above ferd (assembled backwerds for the techs to have a harder time). A EGT guage can save DC chrysler a big repair since you can make sure your not melting down the engine with 20k miles. Also DC provides you with a idiot light in the instrument cluster that only tells you when over temp occurs with the 48RE. My brother was four wheeling (actually it was more like rally racing against buddies in a big 1. 5 mile long track we made) when it came on and just ignored it since he was 15 and never drives anything and has next to nothing in the way of common sense. I was riding shot gun and I happened to look over and he said it had been on for a while. That was the only time the light came on. But when I finally was burning the 48re no light came on, which was a shame cuz by that time it was too late and i could smell burning transmission fluid and clutch. If DC would allow a gauge to be installed in the DC MOPAR performance transmission pan then hey I would have at least known how hot it was and when it cooled so I could drive another 40 feet before overheating.



But what I am saying in short No guages means less driver info, which leads to a tow bill (which DC will not pay to go to the shop nearest your home unless your near home), then down time, and you have the perfect opportunity to have some lazy *** tech being paid on flat rate (on top of warranty rates which suck), so you tend to have more problems later on in life from somebody not putting everything back the DC assembled it or to greater standards. This is why I choose to do everything I can and learn most of what i can't, then what i absolutely can't i will send to a shop I trust (normally a good hike out of state) that does good work. I reccomend you install the guages and explain why its retarded not to install gauges.
 
I totally agree with ya a cracked manifold sure blame in on the egt gauge. No offense to anyone but i would rather work on my truck by myself then let the clowns that work at my local dealers shop wrench on mine. If i could get the parts under warranty i would be all game too.
 
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