'07 Ford Super Duty - Factory Twins?!

[elandon1201]

Same here, it doesn't get much nicer than the interior of a King Ranch. Just wish they came with black leather instead of brown and dumped the IH motor all together.

I am seriously considering finding a V-10 Superduty or excursion and swapping in either my powertrian or a 12 valve setup. Because the Ford truck not the powertrain is far superior to Dodge as far as body and interior durability.

 

[rbattelle]

I notice in that presentation Nick posted the injection pump appears to be mounted in the lifter valley. If that's the case, it seems like a real PITA to change, since everything above it will need to be removed.



Ryan

 

[Greenleaf]

There is nothing strange about lifting the cab off the frame to access the engine... ..... it's the norm at the dealership to gain access to the GM Diesel.



Enjoy.



-S

 

[y-knot]

It's funny to listen to all the belly aching about the FORD products, acording to you guys they can not do anything right, or anything enough to please you.....

Funny but I bet if DODGE was coming out with a twin turbo set-up everyone would be all smiles and happy as helll. Just imagine... a factory twin-tubo set-up from Cummins wow! We would sure be one up one those nasty Ford and Chevy guys... ... ... .



Everyone is so quick to judge Ford or Chevy..... is it because you are afraid they may be getting more for there money then you? The Ford guy's have had it pretty rough with the 03-04 model 6. 0L, but somehow they still managed to outsell Dodge almost 3-1. Of-coarse Ford would never of had that problem if it wouldn't have been for the split between them and IH over money issues and the research on the V-6 diesel. Now that Ford has learned a very important (and costly) lesson, I don't see any feature problems with there diesel engines, single or dual turbo charged.



The new engine (6. 4L) Is much more then just twins bolted on a larger block. the new diesel also switches over to high pressure common rail fuel injection system, for better response, quicker accereration and quieter operation.

I will reserve my opinion on the new Ford truck body style until I see more,better pictures of it. Typically Ford has a style all it's own, which according to the latest sales numbers is quit popular.

 

[CPittman]

... well, effin' A... I'll cast my vote right now for factory twins from Dodge on the mighty Cummins! And, yes, I'd be all smiles and happy as hell!



OBTW... I couldn't have said it better myself, ... they can't do anything right... all things considered, I'd say that most of the posts have been pretty supportive and quite Ford-friendly.

 

[Signal73]

It's funny to listen to all the belly aching about the FORD products, acording to you guys they can not do anything right, or anything enough to please you.....

Funny but I bet if DODGE was coming out with a twin turbo set-up everyone would be all smiles and happy as helll. Just imagine... a factory twin-tubo set-up from Cummins wow! We would sure be one up one those nasty Ford and Chevy guys... ... ... .



Everyone is so quick to judge Ford or Chevy..... is it because you are afraid they may be getting more for there money then you? The Ford guy's have had it pretty rough with the 03-04 model 6. 0L, but somehow they still managed to outsell Dodge almost 3-1. Of-coarse Ford would never of had that problem if it wouldn't have been for the split between them and IH over money issues and the research on the V-6 diesel. Now that Ford has learned a very important (and costly) lesson, I don't see any feature problems with there diesel engines, single or dual turbo charged.



The new engine (6. 4L) Is much more then just twins bolted on a larger block. the new diesel also switches over to high pressure common rail fuel injection system, for better response, quicker accereration and quieter operation.

I will reserve my opinion on the new Ford truck body style until I see more,better pictures of it. Typically Ford has a style all it's own, which according to the latest sales numbers is quit popular.

Its not really that there doing it, its how there doing it. With twins under there good luck working on it. Put twins on ours, its a little harder to change the oil, big deal.

They may have outsold dodge 3 to 1, but thats 3 unhappy Ford customers to 1 happy dodge owner. 3 unhappy owners will tell 3 others and those will tell 6... so on and so fourth.

We will see how sales do over the next 5 years for Ford. Dont forget there is a few years for the trickle down effect to kick in. That will show the true consequence of the 6. 0 DISASTER.

 

[olznut]

There is nothing strange about lifting the cab off the frame to access the engine... ..... it's the norm at the dealership to gain access to the GM Diesel.



Enjoy.



-S

Maybe it's different from the pick-ups, but we had Chevy 4500's which had the van cab and it had a mini "dog house" that was removed to get to the rear of the motor. Couldn't get to much from under the hood.

 

[elandon1201]

It's funny to listen to all the belly aching about the FORD products, acording to you guys they can not do anything right, or anything enough to please you.....

Funny but I bet if DODGE was coming out with a twin turbo set-up everyone would be all smiles and happy as helll. Just imagine... a factory twin-tubo set-up from Cummins wow! We would sure be one up one those nasty Ford and Chevy guys... ... ... .



Everyone is so quick to judge Ford or Chevy..... is it because you are afraid they may be getting more for there money then you? The Ford guy's have had it pretty rough with the 03-04 model 6. 0L, but somehow they still managed to outsell Dodge almost 3-1. Of-coarse Ford would never of had that problem if it wouldn't have been for the split between them and IH over money issues and the research on the V-6 diesel. Now that Ford has learned a very important (and costly) lesson, I don't see any feature problems with there diesel engines, single or dual turbo charged.



The new engine (6. 4L) Is much more then just twins bolted on a larger block. the new diesel also switches over to high pressure common rail fuel injection system, for better response, quicker accereration and quieter operation.

I will reserve my opinion on the new Ford truck body style until I see more,better pictures of it. Typically Ford has a style all it's own, which according to the latest sales numbers is quit popular.

Like I said before I really think their trucks are much better than dodge minus the powertrain

 

[1smoknC]

why couldnt ford just update the handling of the 95-97 strokers? seriously, ford diesels now are just getting to be retarded and im kinda gettin ******. i love my truck, and the 99-02's with 7. 3's but the 03 and up 6. 0's and now these stupid twins is really stupid. why cant they just bring back the good ol OBS stroker with a good 7. 3??????????

 

[2-ND TIME]

Ford Super Duties

Well this piece of junk that I have been stuck with since new, when I ordered it from the dollarshop in Prince George Bring Cash. Has taken me to the cleaners ever since!!! So hope to order one of the 08's next year. It would be soooooo nice to have a powerful diesel engine for once. YESSSSSSSS

 

[MCummings]

why couldnt ford just update the handling of the 95-97 strokers? seriously, ford diesels now are just getting to be retarded and im kinda gettin ******. i love my truck, and the 99-02's with 7. 3's but the 03 and up 6. 0's and now these stupid twins is really stupid. why cant they just bring back the good ol OBS stroker with a good 7. 3??????????

Emissions plain and simple.



Merrick

 

[MFalkinham]

Like I said before I really think their trucks are much better than dodge minus the powertrain

Having been a Ford truck owner, I have to disagree. My '03 Ram (built in Mexico) has been problem free since new. Not one trip back to the dealer for warranty work, not one squeak or rattle in the cab, just a comfortable and dependable truck for 30k miles. My only wish would be for heavier gauge sheet metal, but that is minor.

My '95 Ford gasser wasn't terrible, but it sure wasn't better than my Ram. Between the cruise control fire recall, leaking rear main oil seal, rotted out oil pan, bad U-joints, leaking transfer case, and failed auto-locking hubs I have spent plenty of time and money at Ford service departments. Plus the 90's model Ford trucks had problems with the cab corners and rear wheel-wells always rusting out in the same spots.

 

[elandon1201]

Having been a Ford truck owner, I have to disagree. My '03 Ram (built in Mexico) has been problem free since new. Not one trip back to the dealer for warranty work, not one squeak or rattle in the cab, just a comfortable and dependable truck for 30k miles. My only wish would be for heavier gauge sheet metal, but that is minor.



My '95 Ford gasser wasn't terrible, but it sure wasn't better than my Ram. Between the cruise control fire recall, leaking rear main oil seal, rotted out oil pan, bad U-joints, leaking transfer case, and failed auto-locking hubs I have spent plenty of time and money at Ford service departments. Plus the 90's model Ford trucks had problems with the cab corners and rear wheel-wells always rusting out in the same spots.

I had a 99 superduty with not one problem other than that related to the engine in 100K, not one squeak, rattle, DENT (most importantly), CRACKED DASH, heck the brakes didnt even get replaced until 100K. All I can say is that my 01 which only gets driven on the weekends and is kept in the garage and pampered with only 60K on it is dented up, the top of the bedrails are warped, the dash is cracked, squeeks and rattles everywhere, the paint is peeling off the bumpers, my steering is loose and has knocks when you go over bumps and the list goes on and on, at least the second gen trucks are PIECES OF CRAP!!!

 

[mcoleman]

Ouch, I don't have any of those issues on my 200,000 mile 99. Even the steering wheel is in good shape. My only rattle is the Rancho shocks not fitting properly.

 

[TWhetten]

IMHO no truck built after the year 2000 should be taken off the pavement. I was raised on a 450 square mile ranch in the mountains of western New Mexico and I have seen every brand of truck fall apart. The '70s ford gassers, the mid '80 chevies, and certain jeeps are the toughest of the gassers. The 94-97 fords and the toughest diesels in my opinion. We have a '97 stroker with 230,000 miles on it and well over 100,000 miles of dirt road and 60% of the time pulling a trailer. The truck has a few dents but other then 2 clutches and a cam senser that has been the only problems. We have busted the frames on 2 '95 dodge cummins, and one '96 stroker, and don't ever get me started on the '90 and up chevy. Nothing after the year 2000 has made it to 100,000. We even sent a 2002 H1 hummer back after 30,000 miles because it never lasted 3 months without going to the shop. The toughest vehicles we own are 2 '67 kaiser M715s, a '72 ford 3/4 ton highboy with a 390, a 1985 3/4 ton chevy, and the '97 stroker. But I still love my '03 cummins for running down the highway, however it doesn't see much dirt road so that is why it has lasted so good. I think that a cummins coversion in a '90 ford would be the last truck you would have to own.

 

[Coalsmoke]

It's funny to listen to all the belly aching about the FORD products, acording to you guys they can not do anything right, or anything enough to please you.....

Funny but I bet if DODGE was coming out with a twin turbo set-up everyone would be all smiles and happy as helll. Just imagine... a factory twin-tubo set-up from Cummins wow! We would sure be one up one those nasty Ford and Chevy guys... ... ... .



Everyone is so quick to judge Ford or Chevy..... is it because you are afraid they may be getting more for there money then you? The Ford guy's have had it pretty rough with the 03-04 model 6. 0L, but somehow they still managed to outsell Dodge almost 3-1. Of-coarse Ford would never of had that problem if it wouldn't have been for the split between them and IH over money issues and the research on the V-6 diesel. Now that Ford has learned a very important (and costly) lesson, I don't see any feature problems with there diesel engines, single or dual turbo charged.



The new engine (6. 4L) Is much more then just twins bolted on a larger block. the new diesel also switches over to high pressure common rail fuel injection system, for better response, quicker accereration and quieter operation.

I will reserve my opinion on the new Ford truck body style until I see more,better pictures of it. Typically Ford has a style all it's own, which according to the latest sales numbers is quit popular.

Y-knot, I love these Cummins, but IMO you're dead on, as usual.

 

[rbattelle]

New Superduty with the 6. 4 will be unveiled at an event in Dallas on 28 September.



Ryan

 

[Coalsmoke]

good to hear, thanks for the update Ryan.

 

[Yo Hoot]

There is nothing strange about lifting the cab off the frame to access the engine... ..... it's the norm at the dealership to gain access to the GM Diesel.



Enjoy.



-S

That is pure BS.



I had headgaskets replaced on my old Duramax and watched the entire process. I have never heard of the cabs EVER being removed to work on a GM diesel pickup.

 

[Yo Hoot]

Y-knot, I love these Cummins, but IMO you're dead on, as usual.

Simplicity friends... that's what Cummins has to offer. The straight six is a winner when it comes to simplicty, packaging and room for things like twins.



Cummins recently announced it was no longer in the hp war and is sticking to pure diesel designed for torque and durability.



They (Ford and GM) can have their complex BIC lighter engines. WAY too many things to go wrong. That is not what a diesel, in my opinion, is supposed to be.