Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) #10 plate, slid backwards, will the clutch survive?

[MPascino]

Well it has obviously began..... Working on fixing the stupid stuff the truck needs and ordering up for the mods. The truck has a replacement clutch of unknown origin. I will be installing the gages this weekend. Next on my list is a 4" exhaust, some type of air intake, and a plate. I would like to get a 10 plate for the truck but I am learly for the sake of reliability right now... . Why couldn't I purchase and install the plate slightly back for the time being? I would plan on installing a southbend at a later date along with a 3K gov kit. At what point am I endangering the input to the trans? Would I be pushing the limits of the factory turbo at this point?

Thanks for the advise,

Mike

 

[Jim Fulmer]

A #10 doesn't work so hot without the 3K's, heck I'd do the 3K's before I would the #10. Put the 10 in the middle or stock location(that's slightly forward from the middle) and you should be fine.



Jim

 

[Signal73]

FWIW, I had all the mods below installed with the exception of my 100 plate (had a #5 instead) and no towing, i couldnt really get my OE stocker to slip unless i really tried.

 

[mikel]

Take Jim's advice, I ran my truck for 30k or so with a stock clutch and a #10 and 3kGSK set up that way. I pulled my camper that way too. If I hammered it at low rpm with the trailer back there it would slip, but was easily manageable. W/O the trailer it wouldn't slip.



Mike

 

[McCRam]

It seems I am just a couple of steps ahead of you. After I put my plate in that is like a 10, I was limited by the egts. After I did some repairs and installed a 4in, In fifth gear, I can slip the clutch right about 28 lbs of boost or so depending on conditions. With a trailer behind me it will slip in fourth gear. I just make sure I take it easy when I'm towing, and passing. Basically I can't use all the power my cummins is putting down.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

It all depends on which pump your running a #10 in, there is a world of difference between a 160,175,180 and 215 pumps. If you have a #10 in 215 pump it will get radical in a hurry.



Jim

 

[Erik.Miller]

This may be one of those "stupid" questions, but, how do you know which pump you have? I am about to install a #10 plate and 3k gsk and would like to know if I will be maxing out my stock auto transmission.

 

[RHARVEY]

I have put #10 plates in automatics and slid it backwards about 45k from the stock location and the transmission was very happy and so was the owner. I installed a set of 3k gsk and a #10 plate in a truck with a stock clutch... and again the plate was slide back about 45k. But once I replaced his stock turbo due to a bad oil leak. . and installed a PDR HX35/14 turbo. . I could slip the clutch. So the plate was slid another 15k backwards. . and then the clutch held. Truck runs out great and the owner sees 30lbs of boost pulling up a long grade with the egts around 1100*. .

Just tune this plate to what ever the truck can take(clutch,auto transmission). .



Rick

 

[MPascino]

Thanks for the input guys. The truck is a 1997 with a 215 pump and 293K on it. It looks like the 10 plate will be on my xmas list... .

 

[propuller]

Jim,

How does the 180 pump truck with just a 10 plate compare to a 10 plate & 3k springs. My dad has a 97 180 truck that i put a 5 speed in & a 10 plate without the springs & im curios in how it would feel with the springs. The truck also has Southbend clutch & a 35/40 hybrid turbo.



Kurt

 

[Jim Fulmer]

I don't see it working very well I have never personally tried it. Get the 3K's, there's only $125, you will be much happier.



Jim

 

[OBendis]

I am running 10 plate back . 20 with 3GSK no problems yet from stock clutch and heavy foot.

 

[JGrover]

There was a post where a #10 plate 040 slide back from the stock position will save a stock clutch. That post actually went to me with my 97. But already had the upgraded clutch. Plate forward . 020. A wild ride Oo.

 

[DBogo]

so with a 175 pump and a 10 slid back . 020 i should be fine, i will still gain power and smoke though right