10 speed autos next?

[Wayne M.]

Hi Mike,

The D2 (1940) has a starting motor and although I have the necessary parts to convert the starting motor to electric start I have not gotten a rountit yet. So it is still rope. One D6(1959) has the starting motor with electric start. The second D6 (1959) has been converted to direct electric start.

I would just as soon that 2nd D6 still had the gasoline starting motor. Just this fall I had to install 420$ of batteries on it, also you cant beat the sound of the starting motor rattling up and down the valley early in the
morning!!!

Oh,, and the D2 (the only one with a dozer is hydraulic.

Now THATS cool... I attended this http://www.daysofthepast.com/show with my 12 YO Son, and we were watching an old SIXTY getting ready to come off a lowboy. One of the owners came over and asked my Son if he'd like a ride to the show spot. He went along and it was a HOOT. According to them, it was the earliest diesel CAT and had a crank start gasoline pony motor. I got the whole start up and put put on a video clip.
Here's a picture of it...

 

[NIsaacs]

Am now waiting for someone to ask what a starting / pony motor is... ... ... .



Mike.

I think the smaller/older 4 cylinder engines had a rear mount, 2 cylinder opposed pony and the 6 cylinders or large 4's had an inline 2 on the side?



They were nice for warming up the main engine in real cold weather as they shared the same cooling system.



When I was a kid I wanted a pony motor off of the old John Deere diesels, it was a v/4 screamer:-laf



Nick

 

[rMetzger]

I still have an old Chevy C-10 with a 3 on the tree. The younger crowd is just amazed to see that they used to make them that way.



You have an obligation to keep it that way- you know. Betcha it's nice and sloppy. Lol.



I always say in regard to how people generally drive recklessly around these parts, make them drive a '66 Chevy with bias ply tires, manual steering, and 3 on the tree. THAT'LL SLOW THEM DOWN!!

My Grandpa used to have a late-60's/early-70's GMC 1/2-ton w/3-on-the-tree... . the roll-pin for the shift lever would occasionally just drop out of its hole, making shifts impossible until you pulled over, rummaged thru the leaves and rocks in the floormat, and re-installed it. 2nd truck I ever drove/first I drove on pavement. I was about 12-13, and his attitude was, "if you can see over the wheel AND mash the pedals at the same time, you're allowed to drive in Waggoner and Muskogee. "

 

[cojhl2]

Now THATS cool... I attended this http://www.daysofthepast.com/show with my 12 YO Son, and we were watching an old SIXTY getting ready to come off a lowboy. One of the owners came over and asked my Son if he'd like a ride to the show spot. He went along and it was a HOOT. According to them, it was the earliest diesel CAT and had a crank start gasoline pony motor. I got the whole start up and put put on a video clip.
Here's a picture of it... View attachment 83571

A little additional info on that 60 Wayne.

60's were originally powered with Gasoline 4cyl engines. Sometime in the early 30's Caterpillar came out with this diesel conversion. I'm pretty sure they were all 4cyl.

This tractor is rare and as you can tell well preserved and valued by it's owner.

It is true, these old tractors were all either crank or rope start. The first diesels like this one had the 2cyl inline Starting motor on the side and it would be cranked from the front. Later, on the D7 the crank was from the top.

An interesting, at least to me, is that when this tractor still had it's Gasoline engine it was started with a bar placed in holes in the flywheel.

 

[Wayne M.]

Yes. The little shaft jutting out next to the radiator is where the crank goes. When he was younger, we went to an HCEA dig and there was a gasoline sixty and I witnessed the pipe in the flywheel deal. A risky proposition indeed.