"Any thought of a twins kit??"
We had a kit a year or two ago and it did not sale very well so we shut it down. I still have some parts left if anyone needs parts, like flanges and different things. I also have some mandrel bent intercooler tubes and turbo spacers as well[COLOR]
"Mr. QZilla. I have an '03, HO, 6-sp. , 3500, 4X4, with an AFE ProGuard-7 air intake system, 4" exhaust system and a BD X-Monitor pyro and boost guage. I,ve been thinking about doing a Bully Dog Power Pup or Your equivilent box. I'm concerned about using the higher levels of these boxes with the stock turbo. Some folks, here, recommend not going over 70 HP with the stock turbo. I would really appreciate any thoughts or suggestions You might have. I don't intend to race the truck, just pull a 7000 lb. travel trailer in the mountains, here in Arizona. A little hot rodding might be fun, too. Thank You, for Your help. Joe F. (Buffalo)"
Joe,
You have legitimate concerns. I alwyas recommend towing on an even lower setting than 70hp when it is available. The flip side of this, is that I have seen stock turbo's go into themid 450's without failure. There is a lot of ways to kill or save a turbo. Driving style is probably the most common. I personally would want to have something that is adjustable on the fly for your needs. This way you can just bump the power a little, but only when needed. I know that you can change things with the DL, but once you spend the time changing it you have a hard time stopping and changing it back. That is just an opinion. I will also say that a mild pressure module causes much less stress on the turbo as they do not fuel nearly as hard down low. The egt's seem to be better at the same power levels as well. You will not get the torque numbers you can with the DL or TST type modifications though.
"Qzilla, while we got ya on the line...
Many people have been wondering about the seamless integration (or lack thereof) of the other downloader type box, as there have been issues with some ECM settings not being saved (high idle, skim key, etc), either when the power program is applied or the stock program is put back on. Does your box address either of these issues? People do not want to have to make a trip to the dealer to have them re-program their special features everytime they change their power program. In addition, can you speak to the "stealthiness" of your program as far as the detectability by DC in the case of a warranty scenario? I understand that running the highest power setings and then blowing up a stock turbo and expecting it to be covered is unethical, but some dealers like to instantly blame power mods for unrelated failures, which is what most people on here would like to prevent. In the event of a nonrelated failure, if DC goes poking around in the ECM will they be able to find ANY clues that a truck was running an enhanced power profile, provided the stock program was put back on before service? I've heard rumors that the usual tech won't find anything but that's only because they don't know what to look for... but most would rather not leave that to chance. Please elaborate. "
Well this will probably get me into some trouble, but I will shoot it like it is. They could tell that things have been modified. Anytime you re-flash the computer there are tell tell signs. One is a flash counter. They can also leave codes that could point back at a modification being done. These codes could be caused by other things as well, but that would be for you to fight with the dealer about. More than likely in a normal warranty situation there would be no problems. However it seems that normal situations are never an issue, but the major failures.
I am by no means any sort of an expert on the downloaders. I was approached by someone that wanted to know if I would use them, and that there were other companies that were going to use them as well. All I asked was that I had some tuning input on them. With that said, I get caught in the middle of a lot of questions about the true stock ECM settings. It seems that no one really knows how or why we are having problems? It is frustrating to me as well.
Like I said we are using the downloaders temporarily. They work well and we will probably always keep some around because some of our distributors love downloaders, but we are going to stick to our guns. For some reason we have been selling a ton of them because we have them and a lot of people can't get them in stock??
We are very knowledgable about the plug and play modules. We have learned some new things that are flat awesome too. IF you want something truly un-detectable get a good module. If a module is done in the right manner it makes the ECM do all the work, therefore the module is just the concience! I also personally prefer the ability to turn it off from the cab in a moments notice. The other nice thing is that the module can be removed very quickly if it fails. If the downloaders fails while it is downloading it could be a major problem.
I do not want to scare anyone or make them not want a downloader. They are trouble free most of the time. Modules can also have problems, they are just easier to bypass.
Hope this helps.
Quad
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