180hp to 400hp

[SRT-6]

What would it take to get 400hp out of a 95 180hp engine?

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88 GMC CREW CAB 4X4 89 6BT,NO INTERCOOLER YET,AUTO METER LIQUID FILLED GAUGES,NV4500,NP205,4. 10's,35 BFGA/TKO,6" LIFT,DETROIT LOCKER,16CM,K&N,3. 5 EXHAUST,BD "PRINCE OF DARKNESS"INJECTORS 96 215 hp on the way. J. Mason

 

[The patriot]

I'm still unbombed, but after reading much on this, I feel I'm sort of qualified to answer.
1 the 370 diamond b injectors. Get the right ones, from Joe D or Piers.
2 healthy cam plate. (maybe others can get specific)
3 AFC spring kit.
4 Governor spring kit.
5 re time to 15 deg or so.
6 you'll need to beef up the trans and/or cluch or you're not going to get this HP to the ground.
Eric
I brought an older post back to the top. It's by John_P. It should have all the info youre looking for.
Oh yea, I saw just now you have the 95 engine. I think you'll have to do the delivery valves too. I dont think it's too big of a job.
Keep us posted.
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98 Quad cab 4X4 2500 12 valve,5 speed,3. 54 rears, 8' bed. Michelin 265 75 16 lr-E. Boost and egt gauges but basicly stock except for a "properly adjusted" AFC. Cat in the garage. Uniden HR 2510, Texas Star 1200 amp. 63,000 Mi as of 1/27/01.
NRA life member. High power/IDPA.



[This message has been edited by The patriot (edited 03-25-2001). ]

 

[Sled Puller]

I had a 97 with the 180, I just dynoed at 302. 2.
300 Injectors, TST#5, 16 housing.

So this is what NOT to do if you want 400hp!!

Where are you at?
There is a P7100 pump GURU in Muncie Indiana, talk to Stacked and Jacked, or BULLWAGON.
gene


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1997 Cummins Dodge 4x4 Bombed & Amsoiled. Amsoil Premiere Direct Jobber, Member of: NRA Business Alliance, GLTDR, WANTED: Wrecked Dodges.
www.awdist.com

 

[John_P]

6BT IN A GMC:

I agree with everything "patriot", "Rebel",
"MGM" and "BPINE" already told you. You
have probably already read my old post on
my engine "upgrades" last year.

I have been talking to Joe Donnelly about
the HX-40 as "Rebel" pointed out. Like
him I "hope" to be over 400 H. P. at the
rear wheels after that install. Joe has
also told me that the "215 pump" is the
"best way" to get more H. P. out of the
12 valve engine. Unfortunately, like some
of the others I have the 180 pump too.

Hope this helps you.

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John_P

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Red '96 4x4 2500 Auto 3. 54, TST #5, Major Pump Mods(By "Scheid Diesel") 370 Diamond B Injectors, Gov. Spring kit, AFC Spring kit, Banks Exhaust, Prime Loc, Cummins Chrome Kit,Psychotty Air Filter, Pro-Torque Converter, BD Valve Body, BD Pressure Loc, Isspro Gauges, Sendel 16" Alum Wheels w/ 33" BFGs

 

[Cooker]

Sorry for my ignorance here fellas.

I thought the pump for the autos and the sticks were the same with the difference being the injectors.

Please explain,
Ryan

 

[DHRA]

6BT, the pump is a focus, as mentioned by Rebel, MGM, and John. You can either change the pump cam, delivery valves, install gov spring, and get that pump on a stand to measure out some fuel delivery, or send your core into Piers and get one already set up for you, you make out better with going to BD, unless you have a pump guy that owes you a favor. Good luck and don't forget the other mods!

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Eric
GLTDR

 

[turbonatr]

Heck, all I did was drop my truck off at Auto Wurks in Caldwell, NJ. #ad


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94 Dodge Ram Cummins Turbo Diesel (owned since new) warmed over by Auto Wurks... 15. 06 @ 87mph on 285/75/16s
10 second 87 Buick Grand National
11 second 87 Buick T-Type
Exhaust Driven!!

 

[HEMI®Dart]

turbonatr
I wish I could afford to do that! #ad


6bt,

This best way to go , if you can afford it is get another injection pumped prepped by Piers @ BD Power. If not, the mods the guys were saying will get you there.

Cooker,
The pump internals are slightly different in a 175 pump vs a 215 pump. larger delivery valves, different governor settings, and a few other things.

turbonatr,

There is a new member named Bent6 on the board. He has a Buick GN like you. I saw his ET so, asked him for some details on the car:

"Don't know how to post a pic on here. The car is an '87 Buick Regal with a SINGLE turbo, Stage II Buick V-6, Fel-Pro Sequential fuel injection, API electronic 2-speed automatic with lockup, full tube chassis, 33x17 Hoosier slicks, weighs 2850#, and yes, it does have a pneumatically launched parachute. The car has run a best 1/4 mile time of 7. 70 @ 179mph, 1. 12 60ft and a best 1/8 mile time of 4. 99 @ 141mph. We are looking to go even faster this year with the addition of an even larger turbo. The car is making around 1300hp and 1100ft/lbs now and the new turbo has the potential to add another 400hp - little V-6 willing! Someone tell me how and I will post some pictures!"



[This message has been edited by HEMI®Dart (edited 03-25-2001). ]

 

[BPINE]

Read my Signature, this only equals 335 hp. I am a firm believer that the 180 hp pump is severally handicapped. At this point you can cheat and add propane and get to 435 but IMO if you want to get to 400 on #2 only with a 180 hp pump it needs to come off for some TLC.

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1996 4x4 3500 4. 10 5spd, Diesel Dynamics stage 3 injectors, #5 TST plate, Govoner spring kit, Ported Head, ATS manifold Jet-Hot coated, 16cm2 housing Jet-hot coated with 4" Jardine exhaust, Cummins exhaust brake, US Gear overdrive, Grover air horns and Mag-Hytec rearend cover. Special thanks to Piers and BD Performance.

 

[SRT-6]

Anyone have an idea on the cost of recalibrating the 180 pump?Or the cost of an exchange BD pump?

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88 GMC CREW CAB 4X4 89 6BT,NO INTERCOOLER YET,AUTO METER LIQUID FILLED GAUGES,NV4500,NP205,4. 10's,35 BFGA/TKO,6" LIFT,DETROIT LOCKER,16CM,K&N,3. 5 EXHAUST,BD "PRINCE OF DARKNESS"INJECTORS 96 215 hp on the way. J. Mason

 

[Strick-9]

I was quoted over $2k for a high performance pump from BD because I have the 160 hp pump and they wouldn't take mine in as a core because it is a smaller pump. I don't know if the 180 hp pump is too small to be a core, but you should ask.

-Chris

'94 2500 4x4 auto by DTT, Strick-9 TC unlock device, Diamond B 370's, gov spring kit, high flow delivery valves, jardine 4" exhaust, stock turbo and intake.
Next mod: twins

 

[turbonatr]

HEMIDart,
Best money I spent, besides the purchase of the truck, was with Auto Wurks. It was like I dropped one truck off and a week later I picked up a totally different one. It will be going back soon for valve body mods. Hopefully, the next major mod will be an HX40. Looking for very low 14s between the valve body/converter and the HX40.

Sounds like Bent6 has a bad ride. My GN is slowly making the crossover to a race car. First, I need to start taking weight out of it, 3700lbs. and tons of torque makes for a race car than breaks parts.

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94 Dodge Ram Cummins Turbo Diesel (owned since new) warmed over by Auto Wurks... 15. 06 @ 87mph on 285/75/16s
10 second 87 Buick Grand National
11 second 87 Buick T-Type
Exhaust Driven!!

 

[John_P]

6BT IN A GMC:

On your question about "recalibrating"
the pump, as I recall "Scheid Diesel"
can do them for less that 1K. Call "J. P.
Pezan" or Dan Scheid at the Terre Haute,
Indiana shop. Their number is: 1-800-669-
1593. They have the calibration machines
to do the P7100 pumps and are a certified
Bosch dealer and have been for a long time.

I will check my invoice for you to see
exactly what I paid.

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John_P