1973 Dodge D800 549 cid? What should I expect???

[Wingate]

You buncha Old Guys!!!. .

 

[HHhuntitall]

Yep, in another 30-40 years you will sound just like us... :-laf



Bill

I don't know, I like where this conversation is headed/been. I bought an IH 5 years ago that had a Detroit 318 in it and hoist bed with sides. I hauled wheat for sowing in the summer and used it as a flatbed in the spring hauling hay and feeding in the winter. In college, the team buses had 'em, too. Mine was pretty problem free with the engine, it was just keeping fluid in the hydrualic lift and oil in the motor. It and the buses, every time we stopped for fuel, which was pretty regular, you just poured a gallon in it before you ever checked the dipstick... ... :-laf Ironically, that truck was about two/three miles SouthWest of where you used to live Bill. Came from the guy that took over my lease of the Cole place... . Richard Webster I think it was.



And the old Dodge engines is applicable to me, too. I had a '74 dually with a 413 in it, and pulling hay it would lug down to probably 150 rpm and keep pulling. I just knew it was going to die and I'd have to roll back down the hill to get a bigger run, but it just kept firing... ... slowly. I loved that truck, but that first used '89 Cummins put it for sale at the end of the first tank... ... I've still got an old 413 in the barn I bought at an auction as a spare engine. The air compressor and truck bell housing are still on it!! After I sold the Dodge, I wanted to put it in an old '73 IH of my dad's, but it never happened. That truck had hyd brakes and was impossible to stop downhill!! I ran over several gates as a kid!! :-laf



I never saw any of the big engines in the trucks we had around here hauling grain. The biggest I ever saw was the GM 366. Gerald Ray Copp had a custom grain crew, going all over the states with 'em. He had one big v-8 in an IH, but I never saw it. I can't remember the CI of 'em. The newer ones were 70-72 model GMs. I know the 366s would run a little better than the inline 6 gassers. They were MUCH harder to stop, too!! Going faster meant stopping harder, HA!! I don't think the bigger engines sold much due to the cost, down here. That and I remember Gerald Ray and Niel telling me they couldn't keep them cool in the summer, it was so hot here and in South Texas. I've got one of the old Chevy 366s that replaced my IH last year, and it's hard to keep it cool when it gets over 100. It burned the coating off the wires going to the coil this summer hauling a load of grain just 10 miles!! But it's got a hyd auger plumbed in over the side so I can load a drill without a grain scoop, and in less than 20 minutes!! It's gonna go when I get a good offer for it, as now I've got a nice Mabar bed on my 359, and it's got a Cat and AIR BRAKES!!!Oo. (I think it's so nice and it's 26 years old!!!)

 

[NIsaacs]

Okay you old guys, lets take it a step further. Who remembers the AC and IHC power units that powered all the carnival rides back in the day:-laf



My preference was the AC units, they seemed to have more snort or maybe it was because the mufflers were louder



Farm equipment is huge now days! I was raised with a AC model CA two plow tractor and a combine with a six foot cut and 13 bushell grain hopper. I think our drill held 12 bushell. We later bought a newer/bigger combine with a seven foot cut and 17 bushell hopper



Nick

 

[Bill Stockard]

Ironically, that truck was about two/three miles SouthWest of where you used to live Bill. Came from the guy that took over my lease of the Cole place... . Richard Webster I think it was.



... Gerald Ray Copp had a custom grain crew, going all over the states with 'em.

... I remember Gerald Ray and Niel telling me they couldn't keep them cool in the summer...

Yep, I know of those folks. I never met them, but heard about them from my two brothers who knew them. The Neil you refer to would be Neil Schluter?



Bill

 

[Bill Stockard]

Okay you old guys, lets take it a step further. Who remembers the AC and IHC power units that powered all the carnival rides back in the day:-laf



My preference was the AC units, they seemed to have more snort or maybe it was because the mufflers were louder



Farm equipment is huge now days! I was raised with a AC model CA two plow tractor and a combine with a six foot cut and 13 bushell grain hopper. I think our drill held 12 bushell. We later bought a newer/bigger combine with a seven foot cut and 17 bushell hopper



Nick

My parents never allowed us kids to be around the carnival rides. :-laf



Would you be referring to the AC All Crop Harvester? I worked on one of those when combining oats on our place in Montgomery County, TX back in the 50s. I got to run the bagger sacking the oats... a dusty, dirty job. Oat chaff was bad, but not as bad as clover.



Bill

 

[HHhuntitall]

Yep, I know of those folks. I never met them, but heard about them from my two brothers who knew them. The Neil you refer to would be Neil Schluter?



Bill

Yep. He did a lot of farming over the years. He had a Stieger Tiger with a 60ft chisel, and a big Case 4994 he used, too. He's leased all his land to Terry and Jerry Bagley last year or two, the dirty dog..... I'd have loved to have some of that leased, too!!



I worked on an old White 4wd years ago... it had the big Cummins 903 v-8 in it, natural aspirated. I think it was 210hp at that, and drank fuel like beer in a college dorm!! One of my neighbors has a 955 Versatile with the same engine in it, but it's turboed and makes 310hp now. Much more fuel effecient, using about a gallon/acre under heavy till.



I've still got my grandfather's old Massey 95 and a Super 95 with the 14ft header!! I cut grain in it in 94, two years before he died. It at least had an air blower to help keep chaff off of you. And an umbrella for shade. It sure made Dad's 510 look like a golden chariot!! Nowadays, the Case 1660 I've got really doesn't seem so bad... ... I've got his 12 bushel grain drill, too. Makes those two fancy Great Plains of mine that much nicer, holding 2 bushel a foot, 30ft and 45ft at a time.

 

[Bill Stockard]

The Cummins V903s may have worked OK in a farm tractor that runs at a constant speed, but I avoided them like the plague in a truck since they didn't have a very good reputation. One of our other salesmen traded for one in a KW many years ago. It sat around for a long time and was finally bought by one of the west Dallas truck salvage yards. I wouldn't trade for one unless I already had a place for it to go with a solid offer from one of my wholesale buyers.



Bill

 

[HHhuntitall]

The Cummins V903s may have worked OK in a farm tractor that runs at a constant speed, but I avoided them like the plague in a truck since they didn't have a very good reputation. One of our other salesmen traded for one in a KW many years ago. It sat around for a long time and was finally bought by one of the west Dallas truck salvage yards. I wouldn't trade for one unless I already had a place for it to go with a solid offer from one of my wholesale buyers.



Bill

Worked "ok" would be the description. A friend of mine that owns a repair shop and tractor dealership used to love 'em. He ran 'em over ten years, then finally got an 875 with the 855 inline six, 280hp. He traded off the three 955's he had after that. He claims the v-8 used less fuel, but at the end of the year, the maintanance was higher, so it was actually more expensice to run the v-8s. And they wore out quicker. I drove a cabover Pete that had one, and it would move out like a bullet!! I think it was governed at 3100 rpm, so it would rpm up through the gears, and with the 13 behind it, I think it'd run 120 mph! Kinda scary, riding over the front axle, like that..... I only drove it back to the yard there West of Krum from the auction down at Tyler. At the same auction, a friend bought a big Detroit V-8, I can't remember the CI, but I swear, it looks like it's 6ft wide and 8ft long!!! I'll try to get some pics of it when I get down there, this week.



Hey!! Let me bring up the Moline line of engines!! I had one on a ranch I bought that ran an irrigation pump. I don't know anything about it, but it was LP fired, and pretty large. And then, my grandfather had an old Waukesha motor, and when the governor would kick in and it would load up, the pilot lights at the house would go out!! Grandmother would raise hell with him, and tell him if he wanted lunch, he had to shut it down!!! HA!!

 

[mwilson]

The Cummins V903s may have worked OK in a farm tractor that runs at a constant speed, but I avoided them like the plague in a truck since they didn't have a very good reputation. One of our other salesmen traded for one in a KW many years ago. It sat around for a long time and was finally bought by one of the west Dallas truck salvage yards. I wouldn't trade for one unless I already had a place for it to go with a solid offer from one of my wholesale buyers.



Bill

"9 oh nothings" was the not so affectionate term for them up here...



Also the "555" Triple Nickle hunk of junk was a notable failure...



Mike.

 

[Bill Stockard]

"9 oh nothings" was the not so affectionate term for them up here...



Also the "555" Triple Nickle hunk of junk was a notable failure...



Mike.

Yep, the V-555s went straight to the recyclers along with the Detroit Fuel Pinchers... more V8 diesel junk. Also a couple more: IH DV550 and DVT573.



Bill

 

[rscurtis]

I was friendly with the local IH dealer when the DV 550 first came out. The local town bought a fleet of garbage trucks with that engine. In two weeks, they were all back with broken crankshafts. There was also a knob on the dash marked "swirl destroyer". It operated a set of butterfly valves in the intake ports to reduce smoke when the engine was cold. They also idled on only four cylinders, and switched to eight when the accelerator was depressed.



I used to do maintenance work for a landscaper, he had a GMC 6000 with the 366 engine, was that ever a torture chamber in the summer, and the cab was white as a bonus. Between the exhaust headers, the dual air pumps, and the fact that it was run as lean as possible, the heat was tremendous. The mufflers were almost completely surrounded by heat shields. If the engine ticked over on detonation after you shut it off, hold your ears and get ready for the big backfire. At the same time, he also had a '73 GMC with a 379 V6, a much better running engine that delivered what felt like the same amount of power without turning the truck into a sauna.

 

[Bill Stockard]

I was friendly with the local IH dealer when the DV 550 first came out. The local town bought a fleet of garbage trucks with that engine. In two weeks, they were all back with broken crankshafts.

Not only was that a "feature" of the DV550, the DVT573 and later the V800 had the same "feature". The trucking industry is "littered" with failed attempts at a reliable V8 diesel.



Bill

 

[NIsaacs]

My old man came across a 1973 D800 with a 549 V8 for sale. Does anyone here have any info on this truck, or were I could find a site on this truck?

Wow, nine year old thread that is not locked. I think I have posted this old (75) Dodge pulling truck before but it is worth reposting

 

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