1st Gen Thread Without A Subject....

[SRay]

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That's the 1992 Dodge w250 buried in snow that i drove for 2 weeks after busting a clutch.

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1991 Dodge in my garage awaiting transmission removal.

My 1997 Case IH about to haul the 1991 to my garage.



Even funnier, after I unloaded the old goat from my trailer, MY goat runs out of fuel on the same day not long after Bschwarzli finally got his truck going. What are the odds of both trucks running out of fuel on the same -27 degree day?:-laf



Getting my Case IH going was a bit easier as I didn't have to crack injector lines and my ol' Cummins was nice and warm. :-laf:-laf:-laf

 

[SRay]

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Transmission removed. This truck busted a input shaft as to why it's been parked for so long. the ve pump is still factory and the collar is still attached to the fuel screw but still busted a input shaft.



Maybe they have more power than factory?:-laf:-laf

 

[RSchwarzli]

You know there Shawn, if you keep telling these sadly true stories, people are going to wonder about what kind of leadership the Ontario chapter has! :-laf

Sadly, was true. After my fuel tank melting incident out west, I got a new tank and was running the in bed temp tank down so I could lift it out that night. I apparently miscalculated and she ran down to low for the temp fuel lines to suck. So in the freezing cold I started cracking injectors. And then my trusty cummins fired to life!

Oh well. Live and learn... At least I have an excuse other than I was too lazy to go to the fuel station!

 

[Bater]

Starting up on a very cold -27 degrees winter weather after sitting for over 2 years.

Even doing the Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion, that is darn chilly! I didn't realize that southern Ontario could get so cold. Admittedly though, most of my visits over the years have been along the QEW, and so were buffered by the lake.



I did make a January '09 trek up to Guelph, and a summer visit to Waterloo a handful of years before that. Looks like I was a stone's throw from your neck of the woods.

 

[SRay]

Yeah, you were only 20 mins away from where I live.

Very cold to be starting trucks that have run out of fuel. Cold diesel on our hands. While I haven't had to crack injectors like bschwarzli, I did have to crack the fuel filter and pump the stupid primer down there on the side of engine.

What were you up to on your trek up here?

 

[RSchwarzli]

OK. here we go. Fianlly got the pics uploaded!



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[HHhuntitall]

You know there Shawn, if you keep telling these sadly true stories, people are going to wonder about what kind of leadership the Ontario chapter has! :-laf



Sadly, was true. After my fuel tank melting incident out west, I got a new tank and was running the in bed temp tank down so I could lift it out that night. I apparently miscalculated and she ran down to low for the temp fuel lines to suck. So in the freezing cold I started cracking injectors. And then my trusty cummins fired to life!



Oh well. Live and learn... At least I have an excuse other than I was too lazy to go to the fuel station!

What does it matter who's leading when you can't see a foot in front of the hood ornament because of the black smoke?!!

 

[SRay]

Then you don't want to be behind my CaseIh. You would be #@$%!



It is handy though, if someone was a stupid driver or doing something stupid, then giving them the ominous cloud of doom is one way of straightening them out! :-laf:-laf



I have done the sooting several times on idiots already and being playful with my buddies like sooting bschwarzli! :-laf:-laf

 

[RSchwarzli]

HH - Very valid point! It is a big smoke fest when we get together so I guess what the heck!

 

[SRay]

Yup! We had smoke fest on the cummins and Warren tour this past summer! :-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf



I'm sure plenty of #@$%!#@$%!#@$%! from everyone around us.

 

[HHhuntitall]

My '97 has an engine out of a Ford in it, which came with an Allison behind it, and the cam was wayyyy retarded, so to make it run I had to really bump the fuel up, so it was prone to smoke a "little"... I've gotten two nasty letters from the state of Texas on how I should maintain my vehicle properly to help with fuel consumption and less emissions, blah, blah, blah ..... guess someone got my plate number. But now, with the "Big Stick" cam, it runs much better... . but lugging it off at lights tends to leave it's trademark cloud..... Nothing like lugging it a little just to see some punk (overloading his Neon 4cyl running twin alternators for his radio amp) get a puff through both windows!!!! :-laf Since we don't have any subject, I'd like to point out to Bscwarzli that my new bumpstick is already half way paying for itself!! Other than the blown boost lines... ... and the fact I need a new guage (this one won't go high enough)... ... and the fact the transmission sounds like it's crying for mercy every time the boost gets over 40 psi... ..... and my rear tires are already due for a rotation... ... . and my carrier bearing has already been replaced... ... .

 

[RSchwarzli]

Well since we are on the subject, can you please give me a description of your cam thoughts. As I cant test mine yet, I will live through you.



What is the feedback? Hows it run? MPG better? Sound different? Power up? What did you gain in boost? Etc... .

 

[HHhuntitall]

Well since we are on the subject, can you please give me a description of your cam thoughts. As I cant test mine yet, I will live through you.



What is the feedback? Hows it run? MPG better? Sound different? Power up? What did you gain in boost? Etc... .

HA!! Well, that kinda back-fired on me, didn't it? I'm lovin' 'em. I used the effeciency cam in my '93, and the "Big Stick" in my '97. I backed the injection timing off 3* and the boost went from @ 42psi to 50+. I don't know how high it will go. The guage quits at 50. First time it got full throttle it blew the end off the boost line at the back of the guage, and I thought I'd popped a head gasket again. Luckily that wasn't it, but I still had to pull over and check my seat... . I don't have enough radiator now(I may not have enough truck!!). Loaded, my mileage really hasn't suffered much. I get 10-12mpg loaded heavy and don't downshift much. Empty, it seems it will make a VAST improvement, but I haven't been able to run a full tank out without a trailer, yet. I bought some HX40s a while back, and one's been on there a while, but it's never really spooled up quick until this cam. I thought maybe it was the exhaust housing, but now I'm sure the cam was retarded in the medim duty engine. Now, I have to fight myself to keep it under 70, where before it seemed like it was always struggling to make it to 65. The '93 was kinda like that. I don't know, but all the '93 standards I've driven have never run like the earlier trucks. But now, I have to strap everything down to keep it on the flatbed!!! I love that thing!! I pulled the guages pending a remodel on the inside, but it moves out like a bullet!! The mileage went from 15-18 (crazy how it was up and down, I think due to fuel quality) empty to 18-22. Loaded it's still around 10-12. It has a lot less noise, now, but that could be the NV4500, too. The POD injectors changed a lot of that, too. I'd love to put it on a dyno, but no one's offered a free run locally. I've been thinking about taking it to the truck pulls they just started over at Sanger..... been gone, though, so maybe next week. Gotta be careful and not break the ones I need to work out of!! All and all, I gotta say it's well worth the time and effort... especially if you don't have anything else to do!! (by the way, my CTD conversion will be able to move itself as soon as I find the front driveshaft..... and lock the hubs!!)

 

[Nyoest]

Well since we are on the subject, can you please give me a description of your cam thoughts. As I cant test mine yet, I will live through you.



What is the feedback? Hows it run? MPG better? Sound different? Power up? What did you gain in boost? Etc... .

You don't ask me but I'll tel ya anyhow.



I put in a PDR cam when I redid the front cover and would do it again. Boost comes on faster and my smoke was greatly reduced. I'm still running the stock turbo with an elbow so 35 psi is all I ever see. But I see it pdq and often. Didn't notice much change in mileage, mainly bc I drive like a bat outta hades most o the time.



And now, something completely different.

 

[Bob Beauchaine]

If after flashing my brake lights several times a tailgater does not back off I educate them with smoke/soot. I've had several drivers that did not get the message so, on to step #2. I engage my exhaust brake for several seconds then re-educate by hamering down once more. I have only had one "driver" who needed a 3rd dose - he was driving a BMW. I do not like people that endangering my life by tail gating.



Bob

 

[HHhuntitall]

You don't ask me but I'll tel ya anyhow.



I put in a PDR cam when I redid the front cover and would do it again. Boost comes on faster and my smoke was greatly reduced. I'm still running the stock turbo with an elbow so 35 psi is all I ever see. But I see it pdq and often. Didn't notice much change in mileage, mainly bc I drive like a bat outta hades most o the time.



And now, something completely different.

In the words of Chris Rock..... "WTF?"

If after flashing my brake lights several times a tailgater does not back off I educate them with smoke/soot. I've had several drivers that did not get the message so, on to step #2. I engage my exhaust brake for several seconds then re-educate by hamering down once more. I have only had one "driver" who needed a 3rd dose - he was driving a BMW. I do not like people that endangering my life by tail gating.



Bob

HA!!! They're an idiot to tailgate me. With a DewEze steel bed, I've got a 1" plate for a bottom hitch ledge, braced by 3/8" and 3/4" plate, welded all together to make a land-based battleship!! I actually got rear-ended at a stop light in Lewisville a few back, by a Chevy Yukon. The poor gal in there had a face full of airbag, and the Yukon needed a whole new front clip, and probably a fan and water pump. Two pipe fittings and a rattle can were all I needed(it broke the pipe fitting out of the bale clamp arms which are above the hitch, below the bale arm). The responding officer asked if I wanted a report. I asked,"For what?" I got a copy just in case the gal filed on me, but I never heard anything about it. I felt sorry for her. Her car was probably totaled. I'll have to find those pics... ... the hood on her Yukon was bowed up as high as the roof!! :-laf If someone in a Beemer or low car was to rear end me, I don't think it would be very healthy for 'em. Decapitation would be quick... ... but they'd probably bend up my dual exhaust!! Guess I'd better keep sending smoke signals for a warning!!!

 

[RSchwarzli]

HA!! Well, that kinda back-fired on me, didn't it? I'm lovin' 'em. I used the effeciency cam in my '93, and the "Big Stick" in my '97. I backed the injection timing off 3* and the boost went from @ 42psi to 50+. I don't know how high it will go. The guage quits at 50. First time it got full throttle it blew the end off the boost line at the back of the guage, and I thought I'd popped a head gasket again. Luckily that wasn't it, but I still had to pull over and check my seat... . I don't have enough radiator now(I may not have enough truck!!). Loaded, my mileage really hasn't suffered much. I get 10-12mpg loaded heavy and don't downshift much. Empty, it seems it will make a VAST improvement, but I haven't been able to run a full tank out without a trailer, yet. I bought some HX40s a while back, and one's been on there a while, but it's never really spooled up quick until this cam. I thought maybe it was the exhaust housing, but now I'm sure the cam was retarded in the medim duty engine. Now, I have to fight myself to keep it under 70, where before it seemed like it was always struggling to make it to 65. The '93 was kinda like that. I don't know, but all the '93 standards I've driven have never run like the earlier trucks. But now, I have to strap everything down to keep it on the flatbed!!! I love that thing!! I pulled the guages pending a remodel on the inside, but it moves out like a bullet!! The mileage went from 15-18 (crazy how it was up and down, I think due to fuel quality) empty to 18-22. Loaded it's still around 10-12. It has a lot less noise, now, but that could be the NV4500, too. The POD injectors changed a lot of that, too. I'd love to put it on a dyno, but no one's offered a free run locally. I've been thinking about taking it to the truck pulls they just started over at Sanger..... been gone, though, so maybe next week. Gotta be careful and not break the ones I need to work out of!! All and all, I gotta say it's well worth the time and effort... especially if you don't have anything else to do!! (by the way, my CTD conversion will be able to move itself as soon as I find the front driveshaft..... and lock the hubs!!

Mwahahaha. makes me want to drive my truck. Badly.



And cam the DD!



But first it sounds like I will want to install the 5600 first or my transmission may be sitting on the road! :-laf

You don't ask me but I'll tel ya anyhow.



I put in a PDR cam when I redid the front cover and would do it again. Boost comes on faster and my smoke was greatly reduced. I'm still running the stock turbo with an elbow so 35 psi is all I ever see. But I see it pdq and often. Didn't notice much change in mileage, mainly bc I drive like a bat outta hades most o the time.



And now, something completely different.

Sweet. The more thoughts on the subject the better.



Granted the more thoughts saying it is a good idea, the more I want to cam the DD... .

If after flashing my brake lights several times a tailgater does not back off I educate them with smoke/soot. I've had several drivers that did not get the message so, on to step #2. I engage my exhaust brake for several seconds then re-educate by hamering down once more. I have only had one "driver" who needed a 3rd dose - he was driving a BMW. I do not like people that endangering my life by tail gating.



Bob

:-laf



I must have learnt that from you years ago as I do the same thing. :-laf Most I ever had was a dumb butt in a Astro van go for three rounds. By the time I let off the top end of 4th, I never saw him again!

 

[ENafziger]

I used the effeciency cam in my '93, and the "Big Stick" in my '97. I backed the injection timing off 3* and the boost went from @ 42psi to 50+.

Forgive me for my learning curve on these 1st gens. When you say efficiency cam, is that made by PDR? Do you change tappets when swapping cams? If you pull the radiator, intercooler, grill, etc, does the cam slide straight out the front with no complaints?

I swapped the cam in my '06 myself, so I'm not new to the idea... just still learnin

--Eric

 

[HHhuntitall]

Forgive me for my learning curve on these 1st gens. When you say efficiency cam, is that made by PDR? Do you change tappets when swapping cams? If you pull the radiator, intercooler, grill, etc, does the cam slide straight out the front with no complaints?



I swapped the cam in my '06 myself, so I'm not new to the idea... just still learnin



--Eric

The cam job is not hard. I did mine in half a day. With a tip from Bschwarzli... he notched his center grill support for the cam gear to clear. I took my lower radiator support bolts outs and put a long ram jack against the frame and tweaked my whole front end off towards the pass side. The fenders are so beat up, I didn't think it'd hurt anything, and it didn't. Just make sure you get it moved back!!! I used reground lifters from Peak Diesel on that one. You can get them reground, too. I used Colt Cams Stage 1 in the '93, and the Stage 3 in my '97, as the head is studded and o-ringed, with new Cumins lifters.



I used the PDR Quickspool cam in my '03, and love it, too. I took it to NM last week, packed full to the roof in the camper shell with hunting and camping gear, plus 3 people in it. 4 door 3500 4x4 dually, w/ oversized tires. It averaged 22. 3 over 1600+ miles round trip. No complaints about that!! It's bored . 020 over, too, and has some 80hp nozzles, I can't remember what brand. DDP, I think... . No programmer, Piers Custom S300 Turbo(couldn't find anything else I liked at the time), and some 5" tubing, w/ muffler. It's not as stout as the '97, but runs really good, and I don't have to worry about burning a hole in the piston again!!



Colt Cams: Cummins 5. 9L Custom Cam Shafts - Improve your Diesel Performance with Colt Cams



I've been getting mine from Peak Diesel. Dave is who I talk to, and he's more than willing to offer suggestions and get you what you want. I've been slammed in the shop all summer, plus working the ranch, so it took me several months to get the cams put in, and he still gave me my refund on the cams and lifters. Well, the good ones, anyway. Seems the cam out of the '93 had some bad pitting, I guess from condensate from sitting so much..... #@$%!

Mwahahaha. makes me want to drive my truck. Badly.



And cam the DD!



But first it sounds like I will want to install the 5600 first or my transmission may be sitting on the road! :-laf

NO Doubt!! At least pieces of it will be on the highway!! But you know you want to do it... ..... :smile-with-horns:

 

[SRay]

Ah perfect! A cam subject. I'm interested in this as I'd like to swap in a Hamilton or colt high torque cam.



Many people, including Joe Donnelly has told me the cams don't make more power but increase mpg, better turbo response etc.



So Everyone's opinions in this thread are that you all like the cams?