2009 Chevy vs. Ram

[Grizzly]

Ok, I aggree the call-out made re photo editing most likely not being able to image the bumper reflections and can also accept another call-out claiming photo is authentic.



However, is this how truck and animal would look immediately after a real life Meet & Greet?



It isn't.



It's a posed scene.



Plus it's getting posted at dealerships, sporting goods stores, internet forums, generating much discussion, which achieves every aspect of it's original purpose.



Probably good for business all 'round. . . ,

Sure not good for Chevy trucks!

 

[brods]

I hit a deer in about the same position with the Dodge few years back. It took out the grill and ac condenser with its head and bent the right side of the front bumper back kinking it where it mounts to the frame. Nothing else was damaged. I got slowed down pretty good before impact (couldn't go around it due to ice covering the road). The damage in the picture looks consistent with what might have happened to my Dodge at a higher speed and/or with a heavier animal.



Posed scene? If the truck was that damaged, who would drive it anywhere to pose the scene? The impact surely did not stop the truck dead in its tracks so the grill and other debris could easily be on the road a ways back. The way the front bumper bends match perfectly to the rams skull along with other little details sure makes it seem authentic.

 

[JimB1]

All good points to consider.



What stands out to me the most is animals front legs are angled slightly forward and elbows perfectly vertically positioned as would be for a posed pic.



Also zero road rash, not even the least scuff or mis-aligned texture of fur surrounding region of elbows.



If the animal was dragged at all, then recognizeable road rash would develop withing just a foot or two of dragging and animal carcass would be much more spagetti like stretched thru undercarriage of vehicle.



As for who or why would someone bother to pose this. . , same reason for pics of people swallowing goldfish.

 

[Lipe]

I agree with you jimB1,about the condition of the ram!



But all these guys putting down Ferd and Chevy are just being Dodge guys! cause i got news For ya NONE! of the new trucks have what i call a Real bumper they are ALL! Jokes IMHO The bumpers on any truck made today is a piece of Crap! and the grills are nothing more that Plastic Designs... Plastic chrome coated! Junk!



IMHO If you want a REAL Bumper You better Buy it and Put it on, cause what comes from the factory IMHO is nothing more that dress up pieces!and that goes for all three ,Dodge,Ferd and Chevy!



Read the Why is Insurance so High thread! one of the memebers even says it's because of the Bumper ETC... .



In a way it's good if the Bumper folds up on impact then they absorb some of the impact ,but then again if they fold up just bumping into stuff thats not good and cost a Lot to fix them. I plan to Upgrade my Bumpers as soon as i get my truck cause i drive it like i stole it :~) and Hate Wimpy stuff like the stock bumpers

 

[Andersonville]

Nice Ram. I LOVE my Ranchhand!! Intercooler about $3000. Radiator probably about $1200. New fan,clutchfan belt,upper radiator hose approx $700. Ranchhand Legend Bumper? PRICELESS! LOL

OOOPS! I forgot downtime waiting for the parts to come in because DODGE has them on National backorder 3 weeks at approx $200 a day lost income.

 

[brods]

I think I understand now. You're (JimB1) not saying it is fake anymore, just that they rearranged the carcass somewhat for the pictures, like backing off it a little and straightening out the legs. I could see that happening.

 

[JimB1]

Brods, Yep something like that, but even so, it would seem to me the carcass should be just a bit more beat up than that.



If you look closely at the first pic, just few inches up from muzzle, there's small but severe looking strike mark.



Could easily be bullet entry.



Possible original senario, driver boinks animal, knocks down & stuns it without dragging it, stops & jumps out, pumps one 9mm into the snout to kindly end animals suffering, calls feathers & fish warden, they all decide a perfectly legitamate situation with brilliant trophy animal is too good to pass up. . , adjust scene & pose a bit, click pic, and now are enjoying the 15 minutes of fame every lifetime deserves.



Last production vehicles I can think of that might have taken that punishment without too much damage are early '50's Caddilacs, Oldsmobiles, Buicks, Hudsons.



The sort of car you could stretch a good sized deer carcass tied down over each front fender to get back home from annual fall hunting trip.

 

[Paddy McMahon]

what a shame. What a waste. Regardless of how carefull you drive-It always bums me out to run over such a magnificent animal like this one as they are never suitable for anything but being thrown in a ditch and left to rot from all the blunt trauma... . rather than ending up on a person's dinner plate. Anyway, I believe the dputy in the photo is dept of fish & wildlife.

 

[CookJ]

Brods, Yep something like that, but even so, it would seem to me the carcass should be just a bit more beat up than that.



If you look closely at the first pic, just few inches up from muzzle, there's small but severe looking strike mark.



Could easily be bullet entry.



Possible original senario, driver boinks animal, knocks down & stuns it without dragging it, stops & jumps out, pumps one 9mm into the snout to kindly end animals suffering, calls feathers & fish warden, they all decide a perfectly legitamate situation with brilliant trophy animal is too good to pass up. . , adjust scene & pose a bit, click pic, and now are enjoying the 15 minutes of fame every lifetime deserves.



Last production vehicles I can think of that might have taken that punishment without too much damage are early '50's Caddilacs, Oldsmobiles, Buicks, Hudsons.



The sort of car you could stretch a good sized deer carcass tied down over each front fender to get back home from annual fall hunting trip.

I am not questioning the damage done to the Chevy by this animal, as I believe this impact would have similar results on a Ford or Dodge. I also believe the ram was posed (to some degree) as JimB1 has stated, most likely by the warden, as he is the only one wearing leathers in the photo.

 

[Grizzly]

If you look closely at the first pic, just few inches up from muzzle, there's small but severe looking strike mark.



Could easily be bullet entry.









If that's true, why didn't they shoot the ram directly in the brain and where's the blood?

 

[brods]

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Also zero road rash, not even the least scuff or mis-aligned texture of fur surrounding region of elbows.



If the animal was dragged at all, then recognizeable road rash would develop withing just a foot or two of dragging and animal carcass would be much more spagetti like stretched thru undercarriage of vehicle.



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Yes. If the horn on the bumper was holding the head while the butt was being drug under the truck, pulling or stretching the body straight, the shoulder & elbows would be off the ground and not dragging. From the body and neck it looks like they backed off the carcass a little. The front knees look scraped up so the front legs were probably folded under during the actual drag to the shoulder of the road. Who knows.

 

[Ducman82]

..... cause Lord knows there's no way one of those would wonder onto the freeway on its own.

Animals never do that! what are you talking about... ... ... ...

 

[SWCook]

Those type accidents are pretty serious unless you have some sure nuff protection on the front end and even then its sometimes hit and miss with that.



We had an accident back in 1991 where an over the road truck driver was killed, a Camaro hit a deer on one of our state highways and the deer was vaulted up upon impact with the bumper and hood of the Camaro, the deer then went up and through the windshield of the trucker which was basically in the wrong place at the wrong time.



The mechanism of injury to the driver was a result of a hit to the upper torso as the deer came into the passenger space, we arrived about 3 minutes after dispatch to find him in traumatic arrest and worked him feverishly until the ER Doc pronounced at the hospital.



The owner of the Bowtie is really lucky in this instance.



Bye the way I am surprised that there have been no comments on vintage of the Ram as it looks to be a very mature 1999 model. :-laf



I suppose the owner will be looking into premium front end protection as other forum members have previously stated.

 

[CurtLee]

I'm pretty darn sure this is what those chevy guys call a "low speed" impact:-laf:-laf

 

[JWadford]

i got an email on this said it took the driver over 200 feet to stop and yes grille parts littered the highway, also said it was in montana

 

[BKWelliver]

My truck would have crushed the ram and kept on rolling. I have hit 3 deer now with mine with nothing more then a scratch on my bumper of my 07 Dullie quad Cab 4X4 with Alien Patrol front and rear winch bumpers. I don't even slow down when I see a deer in the road now. With the stock bumpers I would have hit the brakes and swerved to miss them. Nothing beats the piece of mind an aftermarket bone crushing bumper gives you. All never run stock ever again.

 

[JimB1]

i got an email on this said it took the driver over 200 feet to stop and yes grille parts littered the highway, also said it was in montana

Ok, I get it.



Evolution is experimenting with KEVLAR fur and ballistic body parts.



Want to impress all the Ewes?



Want to be able to slide 300 meters down steep sharp shale rubble incline, dump into wide fast moving glaicer melt boulder strewn river, pop up out the other side with that neat clean permanent press Saks Fifth Avenue look?



It's all so obvious now, don't know how I missed it.

 

[EArp]

It looks real to me. If you look closely at the passenger side tow hook there appears to be blood all over it.

 

[Wayne M.]

There's a good reason why the drivers airbag might not have gone off..... The driver didn't have the seatbelt on. I think of the 3 trucks, the ford would be the most expensive to fix, has anyone seen the cluster of radiators on the P/S?

 

[Grizzly]

There's a good reason why the drivers airbag might not have gone off..... The driver didn't have the seatbelt on. I think of the 3 trucks, the ford would be the most expensive to fix, has anyone seen the cluster of radiators on the P/S?

I have seen one. Read my post #19.